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Will Killzone Mercenary be a flop?

Yes, it will be very bad. 73 39.67%
 
No, the game will be awesome! 111 60.33%
 
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Jay520 said:
JayWood2010 said:


so you dont think it is a flop with a 31 metacritic and lower than 500k sold?  You do know that flop means underperforms and to not meat expectations, which it has done in both categories


As far as sales go, I don't see how it's a flop.

What were you expecting it to sell?

Things to keep in mind when forming sales expectations: 
- It was made in 5 months.
- The Vita has only sold 4 million units.
- CoD games on the PS3 attain a 13-16% attach ratio.

Also keep in mind the game is still selling, as it's only six weeks old.

What did you expect this game to sell?

I didnt expect it to sell well.  And Jay I'd prefer you to not quote me at all ;)  Frankly you just annoy me.  i dont see how anybody on this site could say it is not a flop when it scores a 31 metarcitic and was dubbed as being the vita savior by so many people. And Im pretty sure you realize the reason i said what i said.




       

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JayWood2010 said:
Jay520 said:
JayWood2010 said:


so you dont think it is a flop with a 31 metacritic and lower than 500k sold?  You do know that flop means underperforms and to not meat expectations, which it has done in both categories


As far as sales go, I don't see how it's a flop.

What were you expecting it to sell?

Things to keep in mind when forming sales expectations: 
- It was made in 5 months.
- The Vita has only sold 4 million units.
- CoD games on the PS3 attain a 13-16% attach ratio.

Also keep in mind the game is still selling, as it's only six weeks old.

What did you expect this game to sell?

I didnt expect it to sell well.  And Jay I'd prefer you to not quote me at all ;)  Frankly you just annoy me.  i dont see how anybody on this site could say it is not a flop when it scores a 31 metarcitic and was dubbed as being the vita savior by so many people. And Im pretty sure you realize the reason i said what i said.

I'm talking about sales, not scores. How much did you expect it to sell? Give me a number.

You're only annoyed because you know you're wrong.

PS - If you don't want someone to quote you, don't post on a public forum.



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Jay520 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Jay520 said:
JayWood2010 said:


so you dont think it is a flop with a 31 metacritic and lower than 500k sold?  You do know that flop means underperforms and to not meat expectations, which it has done in both categories


As far as sales go, I don't see how it's a flop.

What were you expecting it to sell?

Things to keep in mind when forming sales expectations: 
- It was made in 5 months.
- The Vita has only sold 4 million units.
- CoD games on the PS3 attain a 13-16% attach ratio.

Also keep in mind the game is still selling, as it's only six weeks old.

What did you expect this game to sell?

I didnt expect it to sell well.  And Jay I'd prefer you to not quote me at all ;)  Frankly you just annoy me.  i dont see how anybody on this site could say it is not a flop when it scores a 31 metarcitic and was dubbed as being the vita savior by so many people. And Im pretty sure you realize the reason i said what i said.

I'm talking about sales, not score wise.

You're only annoyed because you know you're wrong.

PS - If you don't want someone to quote you, don't post on a public forum.


No, i see it as a flop and you are not going to convince me other wise.  It has underperformed easily.  It has not helped the vita in any shape or form and has been a complete bomb so to sit there and tell me that im wrong lmao  Easily could be considered as one of the biggest flops of 2012.  On top of that the 31 metacritic score is one of the lowest scores of all time.  But hey go ahead and defend the game and try saying im wrong.  if it would have been a good game it would have done better and i think you know that, but if you feel your right, then go ahead

EDIT: 33 metacritic




       

I think this game will be great.and sony will have a vita bundle.

I just saw a video on you tube with killzone 3 or2  geting played on vita  is the video real.

How can u play ps3 games on the vita.



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JayWood2010 said:


No, i see it as a flop and you are not going to convince me other wise.  It has underperformed easily.  It has not helped the vita in any shape or form and has been a complete bomb so to sit there and tell me that im wrong lmao  Easily could be considered as one of the biggest flops of 2012.  On top of that the 31 metacritic score is one of the lowest scores of all time.  But hey go ahead and defend the game and try saying im wrong.  if it would have been a good game it would have done better and i think you know that, but if you feel your right, then go ahead


I never said it didn't flop with scores.

I'm talking about sales though, not scores.

Do you think its sales flopped?



KZM will be as good as unit16 with better graphic's and gameplay. likelly n less then a 4-5 from g4. and some perfects.



Jay520 said:
JayWood2010 said:


No, i see it as a flop and you are not going to convince me other wise.  It has underperformed easily.  It has not helped the vita in any shape or form and has been a complete bomb so to sit there and tell me that im wrong lmao  Easily could be considered as one of the biggest flops of 2012.  On top of that the 31 metacritic score is one of the lowest scores of all time.  But hey go ahead and defend the game and try saying im wrong.  if it would have been a good game it would have done better and i think you know that, but if you feel your right, then go ahead


I never said it didn't flop with scores.

I'm talking about sales though, not scores.

Do you think its sales flopped?

Yes i do.  This was dubbed as Vita's savior.  It has done nothing for the vita. it is currently a 410k and this is during the holiday season.  That is not good at all.  Someone brought up the attach ratio, but that attach ratio will have a huge decline as time goes on which was ignored in previous posts.  Call of Duty games sell above 20 million copies and this game is pegged to be a big title for the vita but cant even manage 1 million during the holiday season is an embarrassment to the company themselves and sony for allowing such a bad game on the market.  The only good thing going for this game is 410k is more than what it deserved.  It sold strictly off of Call of Duty's brand name alone.




       

JayWood2010 said:

Yes i do.  This was dubbed as Vita's savior.  It has done nothing for the vita. it is currently a 410k and this is during the holiday season.  That is not good at all.  Someone brought up the attach ratio, but that attach ratio will have a huge decline as time goes on which was ignored in previous posts.  Call of Duty games sell above 20 million copies and this game is pegged to be a big title for the vita but cant even manage 1 million during the holiday season is an embarrassment to the company themselves.  The only good thing going for this game is 410k is more than what it deserved.  It sold strictly off of Call of Duty's brand name alone.

It would be impossible for this game to sell 1 million units during the holiday considering the Vita hasn't even sold 4 million units. That's over a 25% attach ratio!

Also, the game stopped being dubbed as the Vita's savior/big title once people realized who the developer was and that they developed the game in 5 months. The hope for this game dropped weeks before release.

The attach ratio is probably going to hover in 7-10% range until next year which is great for any game.

EDIT: Also, did you just say this was an embarassment to Sony for allowing this game to come out? Please name me one instance of Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo preventing a game from releasing because it was bad. That doesn't happen.

Also, you're still clinging to the claim that forum members expectations decide if a game is a flop. That's a shame.



JayWood2010 said:
Mmmfishtacos said:

Call of duty is reaching half a million sold. 15 percent attach rate is hardly a flop. Critically sure.

Anyway, Killzone should do pretty well.


The savior of the vita and a game that usually sells more than 20 million copies, yes 500k is a huge flop

I think that is a unfair comparison on your part. You are comparing a game that should 20 million on the PS3, 360, PC and Wii U to a game that is selling on one console. Not only is that comparison off because of that, but what you really should be doing is compare Declassified to the first COD to reach the PS3, 360, PSP and Wii.

I'm not saying it's not a flop, but I think it just above the flop level and could reach a million or more lifetime sales.

Call of Duty: Roads to Victory - PSP 471,149 - First Year 2,057,844 - Lifetime Sales - - After 6 Years
Call of Duty 3 - PS3
134,090  1,378,046 - After 7 Years
 Call of Duty 3 - WII
262,414  2,18X,XXX - After 7 Years
 Call of Duty 2 - X360
 265,734  1,818,144 - After 8 Years
 Call of Duty Declassified  414,137  414,137 - After 1 Year

 

 

 

 

 

I think the Vita version is on track to sell well. As much as I hate to say it, because I don't want Sony nor Activision to put out a game like this again.