If the total number of systems sold lifetime end up less than this generation (among all console makers) that is a sign of a sick industry that is not growing.

Great more Wii U flop/doomed threads -_-

The industry (the console part of it) looks to be schrinking this generation. General excitement is down, economy is just bad and the competition is up.

I fear it's not looking good.

Give it time, the Wii U will get up and rolling, Nintendo stuff always does.

If that happens, due to early release, it will end up owning the home console market.

Its not a flop and the fact that Nintendo failed to live up to their promise of a stronger launch outside of getting decent ports of current gen games in having a stronger software at launch hurt the system a little.

Zombi U and Nintendo Land are the only ones that come close to offering a unique experience that is exclusive to the Wii U, credit for some interesting ports and upgrades but that alone won't push units. Nintendo or another 3rd party really needs to release something 'revolutionary' to push units. The Wii and DS got their popularity due to their games, the 3DS has started to pick up thanks to games and its price, if they want the Wii U to grow, they are going to need to step their game up in software because it appears that Nintendo TVii while decent isn't turning the heads that one would have hoped as a killer app.

Maybe at least in the West a decent sized ad campaign for Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate might help.

How can anyone at this point argue with a straight face that the Wii U is a flop?

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I thought we concluded that flop is a product that fails to make a profit or hugely misses its projections (not from the general public but from the company). I dont agree with the definition beeing used and you yourself disagree with it, so why make a thread with that as a basis?



Verb

flop (third-person singular simple present flops, present participle flopping, simple past and past participle flopped)


To fail completely, not to be successful at all (about a movie, play, book, song etc.).

The latest album flopped and so the studio canceled her contract.



Given this definition though, every system sold at a loss is a flop, so its a loose concept. We have to evaluate it accompanied by the company strategy wich aims at selling a certain number of units so they make up for it in software. I guess its too early to tell, but to call it a flop is a huge dramatization. It might not hit the projections of 5.5 millions by march or april, but its gonna be close, so its difficult to find any way to call it a flop, unless you wanna hate of course. Theres always a way to do that.