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Will Nextbox have a Blu-Ray drive?

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ghost_of_fazz said:

walsufnir said:
ethomaz said:

pezus said:

I don't think it does.

Ah, someone mentioned movies. MS will have to support Blu-Ray if they want to position its console as a media center again I think. Either that or PS4 will again have the advantage in that area.

The Wii uses a Blu-ray driver but locked due the proprietaty format but the hardware is a default blu-ray driver.

The Nintendo just created this format to lock the blu-ray driver for movies, etc.


*any* proof for that?


It is not Blu-Ray per se. It is a format developed by Panasonic (who is also one of the founding members of the BD Association, and also good business partner of Nintendo) heavily based on Blu-Ray, with the same technology. If it's not called "Blu-Ray Disc" by name, is because of licensing fees, and maybe because Nintendo does not want to associate it's console with a technology that became mainstream thanks to a Playstation piece of hardware, and therefore, it is very  identified to the Playstation brand.

It was the same with the Wii's discs. They were DVD's, but they were never called by that name because of licensing fees. And the DVD was created by Sony too.

 

yes, that's what my post yesterday with links (!) also said. And no, it is not just another name or can you put WiiU-discs into a bluray-odd and show its contents? So the question is: what makes a bluray to bluray? Just the pits or is there even more? But claiming WiiU uses an ordinary bluray-odd is just guessing.



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ghost_of_fazz said:
walsufnir said:
ethomaz said:

pezus said:

I don't think it does.

Ah, someone mentioned movies. MS will have to support Blu-Ray if they want to position its console as a media center again I think. Either that or PS4 will again have the advantage in that area.

The Wii uses a Blu-ray driver but locked due the proprietaty format but the hardware is a default blu-ray driver.

The Nintendo just created this format to lock the blu-ray driver for movies, etc.


*any* proof for that



And the DVD was created by Sony too.

 


"DVD is an optical disc storage format, invented and developed by Philips, Sony, Toshiba, and Panasonic in 1995."

It seems now that if there is a sony product inside the company who made something they get sole rights for it's creation. Sony where a part of it sure, but along with a good few other big players.



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ethomaz said:

pezus said:

I don't think it does.

Ah, someone mentioned movies. MS will have to support Blu-Ray if they want to position its console as a media center again I think. Either that or PS4 will again have the advantage in that area.

The Wii uses a Blu-ray driver but locked due the proprietaty format but the hardware is a default blu-ray driver.

The Nintendo just created this format to lock the blu-ray driver for movies, etc.

do you have a source for that? I have been trying to find one but i cant. I dont see where it says that it is abluray drive. The discs have the same capacity, but i think the wiiu has faster read speeds. so i am not sure if it is blu ray.



Yes Microsoft will finally invent the BluRay

A lot of people who hate Sony and the PS3 will suddenly say "OMG BLURAY best thing ever" after they hated it just cause the PSawesom3 and Sony invented and used it for AGES.
But this goes for everything - HDTVs?NO NEED!SD is enough!....Poor person gets a HDTV > OMG BEST THING EVER!
Now the same is happening with 4k TVs...In 10 years when its the standard everyone will love them.



thranx said:

do you have a source for that? I have been trying to find one but i cant. I dont see where it says that it is abluray drive. The discs have the same capacity, but i think the wiiu has faster read speeds. so i am not sure if it is blu ray.

I will search for it... I just read a hacker saying that... the latest Blu-ray drives is even faster for read than the Wii U one... the hacker comunitty thinks they can unlock the drive to read blu-ray movies (of course the Wii U have to be full racked first).

From what I undertand the Wii U discs is similar to PS3 discs... the difference is the file structure used by Nintendo to prevines piracy but the PS3 DVD file structure was different form the DVD standard and even so the burn programs can write in the PS2 format for games (for movies the PS2 can read the standard DVDs).

We need to wait but there is no other tech for discs over 20GB today... not a popular one... anything different from Blu-ray will be expensive and hard to manufacturate (eg. PS3 with Blu-ray).



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ethomaz said:
Yes. There is no other option... even Wii U uses Blu-ray.


WiiU doesnt use blueray, they have their own format



bananaking21 said:
WiiU doesnt use blueray, they have their own format

The file structure inside the BD disc is proprietary... the drive and discs are Blu-ray.

It's like the HDD for PCs... Linux format is ext3 and Windows is NTFS (the Windows can't read ext3 HDD... and Linux needs a software to read NTFS)... of course Nintendo uses some kind of encryption.

 



ethomaz said:

thranx said:

do you have a source for that? I have been trying to find one but i cant. I dont see where it says that it is abluray drive. The discs have the same capacity, but i think the wiiu has faster read speeds. so i am not sure if it is blu ray.

I will search for it... I just read a hacker saying that... the latest Blu-ray drives is even faster for read than the Wii U one... the hacker comunitty thinks they can unlock the drive to read blu-ray movies (of course the Wii U have to be full racked first).

From what I undertand the Wii U discs is similar to PS3 discs... the difference is the file structure used by Nintendo to prevines piracy but the PS3 DVD file structure was different form the DVD standard and even so the burn programs can write in the PS2 format for games (for movies the PS2 can read the standard DVDs).

We need to wait but there is no other tech for discs over 20GB today... not a popular one... anything different from Blu-ray will be expensive and hard to manufacturate (eg. PS3 with Blu-ray).

I read a lot about hackers regarding WiiU but nothing to the odd. Would like to read your link.

Sure, newer bluray-drives are faster. But speed corelates almost always to noise with odds...

I think they go by the same pit-size and that's it.



@walsufnir: Maybe you can't put a Wii U disc in a PC with a BD drive and read it's contents (or maybe you can with the right drive, like with the Wii?). But the future, when the console is properly hacked, you will be able to burn a standard blank BD that you purchase from a store and read it on the Wii U, since it's the same tech most probably.

@ganoncrotch: Maybe I should've mentioned that too, but that was my point exactly. Even if Sony was one of the key player on the development of a format, that does not means it's the owner.

@thranx: There are BD drives for PC much faster than the Wii U's. If we go by the assumption that it is indeed BD tech, then the Wii U uses a 5x speed drive. There are BD drives for PC that read at 12x.



ethomaz said:

thranx said:

do you have a source for that? I have been trying to find one but i cant. I dont see where it says that it is abluray drive. The discs have the same capacity, but i think the wiiu has faster read speeds. so i am not sure if it is blu ray.

I will search for it... I just read a hacker saying that... the latest Blu-ray drives is even faster for read than the Wii U one... the hacker comunitty thinks they can unlock the drive to read blu-ray movies (of course the Wii U have to be full racked first).

From what I undertand the Wii U discs is similar to PS3 discs... the difference is the file structure used by Nintendo to prevines piracy but the PS3 DVD file structure was different form the DVD standard and even so the burn programs can write in the PS2 format for games (for movies the PS2 can read the standard DVDs).

We need to wait but there is no other tech for discs over 20GB today... not a popular one... anything different from Blu-ray will be expensive and hard to manufacturate (eg. PS3 with Blu-ray).

nintendo usually uses propitery discs and disc drives as far as i know. the game cube, and the wii each used non standard drives and discs. I dont see why they start using a bluray now. I serached and i could not find anyhting conclusive, just comparisons. even the anandtech teardown didn't speicfy, it just said that it used a disc the same size as blu ray, but that the drive had increased read speeds.