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thetonestarr on 01 January 2013

Exact same thing happens with every single console around this point in its lifespan. Normally, it's no big deal, but because it's Nintendo, suddenly everybody's all, "OMG WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!?"



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EdHieron on 01 January 2013
thetonestarr said:
Exact same thing happens with every single console around this point in its lifespan. Normally, it's no big deal, but because it's Nintendo, suddenly everybody's all, "OMG WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!?"


At about this point in its lifespan xbox 360 boxes without xbox 360s in them were selling rather rapidly on ebay for $600.00.  However, people are refusing to bid Wii Us up to full price.



S.T.A.G.E. on 01 January 2013
KeptoKnight said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
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Gamegears said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Gamegears said:
Technically an easy screw up for Sony/Microsoft to make is releasing a next gen system at a high price point.. they do that.. and combined with the fact that by Next Year WiiU will most likely see some great games and really be put out there on display... WiiU might get another easy win in total sells.. that being said.. I think people are trading them in.. getting what they really want.. and some might pick them up later.. I


Everyone knows more powerful tech is expected from next gen consoles. The Wii U's 2013 so far doesn't look anywhere near to the year of the PS3 or 360 itself, so how could it hope to outshine the next gen consoles from those guys? Nintendo will shoot for the casuals the second they see 2013's sales for the newest console(s), mark my words.


Well honestly if last gen and to a point this gen proved one thing more advanced tech does not matter until later in the cycle when prices go down. If it truly did.. I think Vita and 3DS numbers would look quite different.. don't you?? With that being said a couple of things to consider..

 

1. Yes the 360/PS3 has a good year coming.. of course that is a double bladed sword.. because it may actually hurt the launch of the PS4/720. Why should you pay for a new system when you have one that is still having good games released.. plus most launchg titles.. are not that impressive.. anymore.. if you want gamers to shell out the bucks.. you better have more then 1 good game.. 

 

2. Everyone also knows the 360/PS3 is ending it's life cycle soon.. and more games may not be coming.. and the ones that are will probably be ports.. alot of people will want a system that has some games and will have games made for it in the future.. with the WiiU they will have this.. plus.. like I said.. it is more then likely.. the initial price sticker on the 720/PS4 is going to be so much.. that it will just make the WiiU sell that much better.. and like I said.. expect WiiU to get some really good titles next year.. this will also help.. 

 

I am sorry.. I think the PS4/720 will do fine.. but I really don't see them appealing or selling that well if the companies charge 500-600 dollars for their systems.. except to the few really hardcore gamers.. that must have the newest systems on launch.. and the fans of respective companies.. but this is all future speak.. who knows.. the companies may launch at a 400.00 price point at which they could do well... I think... 

yup. People in forums asking," why get Wii-U when PS3 and Xbox 360 is cheaper?"

I ask why even get PS4 and xbox 720 then?


The PS4 and 720 aren't truthfully competing against their older iterations. Late adopters always go for the cheaper console when the gen is almost complete. The Wii U however is competing with last gen and will get outshined next year. I hope to god they get their own version of GTA or else well....

Nastradmus jr is on the loose again. Bookmark him. He can talk out of his ass a lot.

Wii-U is competing for both  gens. They haven't even started throwing out the big guns. They dont need to announse anything as of yet. It is pretty much a waiting game. They never said it will sell better than the Wii. How about I say in terms of software, hardware and profitability the Wii-U will have them hold their ankles?


I'll make a bet with you right now that the Wii U will be outshined. 

what is outshined? the cover of the console? what does it mean to you?

I already gave you my definition. Your statement is vague in fact nonsensical.


Nonsensical? The PS3 and 360 are going to have the most stacked two quarters out of any first half of the year. Unless the Wii U can attain most of those multiplats it will slow the hardcore sales down.

Yes it is nonsensical. You still haven't provided what "outshine" means.

Wii already beat them down. Wii-U is here to go against all odds as well as Orbis and Durango (software, hardware and profitability) when they arrive. Software sales alone is a humiliation.

**By the time Orbis and Durango arrives.....its all straight profit for the big N.

The Wii won and no one is doubting that. That is purely attributed to the simplicity and marketability of the Wii to casuals, but can you truly attest that the Wii U has the same marketability seeing the markets Nintendo is now focusing on? I am not talking about the Wii's dominance but rather how their new gen console is competing with current gen consoles with a similar library and on a similiar graphics level. If Nintendo is going to play that game with Sony and Microsoft they better get third parties to support the Wii with the top titles that are console sellers on the other consoles. The first job was done with COD, but what of GTA next  year? These might not be console sellers, but what of Tomb Raider, Crysis 3 and Bioshock Infinite? Timed exclusives for the 360's initial third party titles helped them take marketshare from Sony which they formed when they joined. Nintendo could well take core Nintendo fans from Microsoft and Sony in the future, but as it stands now if they cant cover all of the top multiplats that are on the PS3 and 360 they wont cut it when the new consoles come unless its dumbed down and the Wii U controller special versions are made to make the Wii U shine in a way Kinect could never do for Microsoft.



gronk-bonk on 01 January 2013
KeptoKnight said:
EdHieron said:

Yeah and it's doomed to failure.  It was the casuals that inflated the Wii's numbers not the 3d Mario and Zelda fans and when Sony and Microsoft finally released devices of their own geared towards the Casuals that was the death knell for the Wii.  Just like the Wii, the Wii U's only a step up from the current gen.  720 and PS4 will launch at $400 with all the top true exclusives of the coming gen, and Nintendo will be a third party developer mainly for mobile devices in the next gen. after the one that will start when 720 and PS4 release.

o sweet Jesus....what a post.

oh ive heard that claim many times since the days of the n64. I get a good laugh. Nintendo has been doomed since 2002 :)



Bet with ninjablade:

Ninjablade wins if the next 5 multiplat on the wii u are inferior to the 360 version.

I win if one of the 5 mulitplats are on par or superior on the Wii U.

ibrahimman0 on 01 January 2013

Maybe he wanted just to try it , or maybe he got it as a gift.



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itsJabby on 01 January 2013
kupomogli said:
itsJabby said:
wheres did they return it, so i can buy it...would i get a small discount?

Gamestop.  $5 off.


sold!



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Cobretti2 on 01 January 2013

Maybe the OP should have asked the guy returning it haha. Then we know the actual answer.



 

 

EdHieron on 01 January 2013
gronk-bonk said:
KeptoKnight said:
EdHieron said:

Yeah and it's doomed to failure.  It was the casuals that inflated the Wii's numbers not the 3d Mario and Zelda fans and when Sony and Microsoft finally released devices of their own geared towards the Casuals that was the death knell for the Wii.  Just like the Wii, the Wii U's only a step up from the current gen.  720 and PS4 will launch at $400 with all the top true exclusives of the coming gen, and Nintendo will be a third party developer mainly for mobile devices in the next gen. after the one that will start when 720 and PS4 release.

o sweet Jesus....what a post.

oh ive heard that claim many times since the days of the n64. I get a good laugh. Nintendo has been doomed since 2002 :)


It was putoff by them putting out a console that didn't appeal to gamers and that as a result turned out to be the first console from the current gen ( if you really want to count it as one and I'm sure that whether or not it really was one will be argued for and against for  quite a long time )  that turned out to be the first one of them to die in the marketplace.



gronk-bonk on 01 January 2013
EdHieron said:
gronk-bonk said:
KeptoKnight said:
EdHieron said:

Yeah and it's doomed to failure.  It was the casuals that inflated the Wii's numbers not the 3d Mario and Zelda fans and when Sony and Microsoft finally released devices of their own geared towards the Casuals that was the death knell for the Wii.  Just like the Wii, the Wii U's only a step up from the current gen.  720 and PS4 will launch at $400 with all the top true exclusives of the coming gen, and Nintendo will be a third party developer mainly for mobile devices in the next gen. after the one that will start when 720 and PS4 release.

o sweet Jesus....what a post.

oh ive heard that claim many times since the days of the n64. I get a good laugh. Nintendo has been doomed since 2002 :)


It was putoff by them putting out a console that didn't appeal to gamers and that as a result turned out to be the first console from the current gen ( if you really want to count it as one and I'm sure that whether or not it really was one will be argued for and against for  quite a long time )  that turned out to be the first one of them to die in the marketplace.

sorry i don't understand what you wrote. 

Could you explain more coherently and concise



Bet with ninjablade:

Ninjablade wins if the next 5 multiplat on the wii u are inferior to the 360 version.

I win if one of the 5 mulitplats are on par or superior on the Wii U.

KeptoKnight on 01 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
KeptoKnight said:

Yes it is nonsensical. You still haven't provided what "outshine" means.

Wii already beat them down. Wii-U is here to go against all odds as well as Orbis and Durango (software, hardware and profitability) when they arrive. Software sales alone is a humiliation.

**By the time Orbis and Durango arrives.....its all straight profit for the big N.

The Wii won and no one is doubting that. That is purely attributed to the simplicity and marketability of the Wii to casuals, but can you truly attest that the Wii U has the same marketability seeing the markets Nintendo is now focusing on? I am not talking about the Wii's dominance but rather how their new gen console is competing with current gen consoles with a similar library and on a similiar graphics level. If Nintendo is going to play that game with Sony and Microsoft they better get third parties to support the Wii with the top titles that are console sellers on the other consoles. The first job was done with COD, but what of GTA next  year? These might not be console sellers, but what of Tomb Raider, Crysis 3 and Bioshock Infinite? Timed exclusives for the 360's initial third party titles helped them take marketshare from Sony which they formed when they joined. Nintendo could well take core Nintendo fans from Microsoft and Sony in the future, but as it stands now if they cant cover all of the top multiplats that are on the PS3 and 360 they wont cut it when the new consoles come unless its dumbed down and the Wii U controller special versions are made to make the Wii U shine in a way Kinect could never do for Microsoft.

Too many ifs, buts, could and what not.

Go over this thread..http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=147821&page=1