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Final-Fan said:
zero129 said:
spurgeonryan said:
Hmmm...why would I nip anything in a bud?

I think the bigger question is...Why would you nip something in your butt xD .

I forgot to address this question ... I believe "nip in the bud" is talking about weeding, getting a weed before it gets too big. 
http://grammarist.com/usage/nip-in-the-bud/
Turns out it's more like clipping a flower bud before it blooms (I guess to save the plant's energy for other flowers or maybe just for aestetics), but it's the same meaning of "get something that will be a problem before it grows into a problem".  This explains the use of "bud" much better than my guess. 

It also turns out that your misspelling/misunderstanding is pretty common. 

I was glad for the english lesson, but I was surprised that it came as opposed to a few more relevant thoughts you might have had lately. What do you think of happyd now that there's been a guilty claimed on him? Do you think that he was busdriven?



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Nacho said:
happydolphin said:
Honestly guys, make some sense. I couldn't have possibly played mafia defending prof and claiming VT.

I can't prove it to you that I'm not the godfather, but why are you guys not even looking at the possibility of the Godfather being out there and me being framed. :(

"Couldn't have possibly played mafia defending prof and claiming VT." is an incorrect statement. In your opinion, it could be unlikely, but it is not impossible. I'm not looking at the possibility of you being framed because it's more likely that you are scum and making up lies to extend your life. There's this wonderful tool I love to use called Occam's Razor, which essentially states that the simplest answer is the most likely solution; in this case, you being scum and being scanned overnight is more likely than mafia predicting both that Stefl had an investigative role and using it on you, and bus drove you so there would be a guilty on you today.

You're adding an unneeded clause to your razor. Mafia didn't need to predict Stefl's scan on me, they just needed to hope for a scan on me. And they did. As much as Stefl hoped to get a scum scan and he got one.

You're grasping at straws.

Nacho said:
happydolphin said:

Day 1 I stated my reasons to vote for Final-Fan. The no lynch option was a bad option, you don't give mafia a chance to kill at their pace. What else, Spurge is almost certainly town, and I would be hard-pressed to believe that his claim is untrue and I'm pretty sure that the scan that Stefl got was accurate. Ninja GF is too hard a role to make up. So Spurge is clean in my book.

Anyways guys, no more tunneling. We might have hit prof but we seriously tunneled Day 1 and are doing it again toDay. Unless we're really lucky it's not a strategy for the win.

Day 1, you knew no lynch was a bad option. But you allowed no lynch to be tied with prof (meaning the result was no lynch) for a very long time. Why is that?

We're not tunneling. There is a guilty result against you. Happy, what happens when a cop claims a guilty against someone else? Do you hunt for a framer? Do you hunt for a bus driver? No. You lynch the guilty.

No, you check to see if there might be a bus-driver because the odds are that I was bus-driven, plain and simple.

As for playing final-fan day 1 and the votes being tied between no lynch and prof. This is a poor argument. I was not voting for prof because I didn't think he was scum. As such, in that case, my preference was no lynch because I didn't want to vote prof. I'm not saying no lynch is bad per biblia, I mean that with lack of a valid reason, no lynch is not a town play. Final fan's no lynch play was unfounded, that's what I meant...



Nachomamma8 said:

Exactly. That's why you've created a situation where you both can be town, so you can safely kill spurge in the night. When was the last time you've seen a bus driver before last round? Could you link me?

See, if I were mafia I wouldn't even take the risk. I wouldn't even let Spurge flip and cast doubt on me, especially if I'm the Godfather.

If, as mafia, I claim to be bus-driven, and then let town see Spurge's flip, I'm going absolutely nowhere.

Ok on this one?



"You're grasping at straws", says the man who is trying to push off who is pushing him getting busdriven by mafia as a likely scenario and expecting people to eat it right up. Your preference being no lynch over prof is scummy in and of itself because I KNOW you know better. Unless you can point to a secret tell of prof's that made him obvtown in your eyes... but even then, should have pushed it yesterday. And somehow you are trying to point to you voting Final Fan for voting No Lynch is a town play...?

Although I would like spurge to clarify whether stefl told him that he targetted happyd and got a Godfather Ninja result, or if the result was happyd is a Godfather Ninja. Because if it's the second, we can get our scumlynch now! If it's the first, we still have to argue with happyd for a while longer.



happydolphin said:
Nachomamma8 said:

Exactly. That's why you've created a situation where you both can be town, so you can safely kill spurge in the night. When was the last time you've seen a bus driver before last round? Could you link me?

See, if I were mafia I wouldn't even take the risk. I wouldn't even let Spurge flip and cast doubt on me, especially if I'm the Godfather.

If, as mafia, I claim to be bus-driven, and then let town see Spurge's flip, I'm going absolutely nowhere.

Ok on this one?

If spurge got a guilty result on you, how would you prevent him from casting doubt on you? Oh, wait. You couldn't >.>



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zero129 said:
NotStan said:
Well to be fair Yoshia was the final vote that actually hammered prof in the end, unless he threw his lurking team member under the bus to gain trust and immunity, which is highly unlikely, prof being a role locker and all, which is a pretty significant power the scum have.

I am somewhat doubtful of the spurges desire to lynch happyd, as I don't have any clue as to what you could possibly get from scanning/watching etc. And radishes somewhat easy acceptance of the pushing is interesting, however after the name claim, which is a pretty significant one, unless someone counter claims the same name, it shows an almost definite town alignment.

Abc and ff lurking is suspicious too, I didn't even realise ff was in this game?

I think I will wait for happyd defence and further people to check in before proceeding to place my vote on him.

Unless if Yoshia was Mafia and knew he had no other way to save prof casting a vote like that on such a powerful Role would indeed imo be a very good move for mafia to do. imo id be most suspect of anyone that first tried to help Prof and then do a complete 360 and vote when they know the is no other option as it is a mafia move.

Except prof could have been saved either by not voting at all or "deciding" that the prof lynch was not a good idea and going with a no lynch vote.(Or even if he'd had shown up and voted no lynch) This is quite different from when mafia sacrificed themselves in MLP or even last round, because in those cases it was salvaging definite blows to the team.

Though I agree that anyone that did a 180 on their stance is most suspicious. Something I will be focusing on when I reread Day 1.



Let me reiterate my first point. You are a vanilla townie. Even if you were bussed we are not losing any power roles. The reward of you being mafia is much greater than any risk involved. We are lucky that Spuge was even able to hear Stefl's results. We can't let that go to waste...




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zero129 said:
Nachomamma8 said:
zero129 said:
Am i the only one that thinks mafia is a 4 man team (well 3 man now)???

Three prophets, three mafia. Why do you think 4?

 

I dont think this is the case imo, i think we might have 1 prophet controlling the rest of the mafia members covernent or 2 prophets and 2 covernent members (Not sure about spelling etc bit drunk now and cant be assed to check if i got the names right lulz xD).

I just think 3 Prophets = 3 mafia would be too easy somehow.

We started with 12. Meaning that if we had a 4 man scumteam, a mislynch and a kill would bring us down to 10 players, and a additional mislynch and a kill would bring us down to 8 players and we would lose. That seems a bit too little of a buffer zone for town.



Nachomamma8 said:
"You're grasping at straws", says the man who is trying to push off who is pushing him getting busdriven by mafia as a likely scenario and expecting people to eat it right up. Your preference being no lynch over prof is scummy in and of itself because I KNOW you know better. Unless you can point to a secret tell of prof's that made him obvtown in your eyes... but even then, should have pushed it yesterday. And somehow you are trying to point to you voting Final Fan for voting No Lynch is a town play...?

Although I would like spurge to clarify whether stefl told him that he targetted happyd and got a Godfather Ninja result, or if the result was happyd is a Godfather Ninja. Because if it's the second, we can get our scumlynch now! If it's the first, we still have to argue with happyd for a while longer.

I told you why I wasn't going to vote prof and no bandwagon was going to make me lynch somebody I thought lynching was a bad idea, even if the only other option was a no lynch. I tried to make that clear but apparently I'm the one grasping at straws now.

It's not so far-fetched that I got bus-driven. It not only happened last game but it was a very considered possibility. Yet suddenly this game it's out of the picture? That's pretty biased and shows you're kind of getting eager to get me mislynched. I told you, I'm VT, I made a pretty solid case as to why mafia would choose me as their BD target yet all you can say is "Occam's razor"? This is depressing.

And whether Spurge got GF Ninja result or happyd is a GF Ninja, it's the same diff as bus-driving causes any action made on target A reflect on target B. So where B would have yielded "B is GF Ninja", it now says "A is GF Ninja".



Nachomamma8 said:

We started with 13. Meaning that if we had a 4 man scumteam, a mislynch and a kill would bring us down to 11 players, and a additional mislynch and a kill would bring us down to 9 players and we would almost lose. That seems a bit too little of a buffer zone for town.






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