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Augen on 11 December 2012

Dropping today and into my range of 13.



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Train wreck on 11 December 2012
kitler53 said:
Viper1 said:
ethomaz said:
Nintendo is not on track to match their own fiscal year predictions.

Care to elaborate?


well you've seen the early numbers same and ethomaz and I.  no one can be sure at this point with 100% certainly but i don't think nintendo are on track to meet their expectations of 5.5M wiiU by March.  So i'll explain it as best I can...

want to bet on it?  I say nintendo misses their 5.5M shipment figures by March 2013 thus selling below expectations.  1 month of avatar contol?

He wont take you up on it, he is to busy blaming everyone else for Nintnedo's problems.



Viper1 on 11 December 2012
kitler53 said:
Viper1 said:
ethomaz said:
Nintendo is not on track to match their own fiscal year predictions.

Care to elaborate?


well you've seen the early numbers same and ethomaz and I.  no one can be sure at this point with 100% certainly but i don't think nintendo are on track to meet their expectations of 5.5M wiiU by March.  So i'll explain it as best I can...

want to bet on it?  I say nintendo misses their 5.5M shipment figures by March 2013 thus selling below expectations.  1 month of avatar contol?

I thought bets were outlawed?  Or at least I think they were at some point.

I'm just not ready to make a claim they won't match their shipment projection with just 2 weeks of US sales, 1 week or Euro sales, and weekend Japanese launch sales. I'd like a little bigger sample size to work with than that.   And I'd hope that being on a sales website that most of us would feel that same way.



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Viper1 on 11 December 2012
Train wreck said:
kitler53 said:
Viper1 said:
ethomaz said:
Nintendo is not on track to match their own fiscal year predictions.

Care to elaborate?


well you've seen the early numbers same and ethomaz and I.  no one can be sure at this point with 100% certainly but i don't think nintendo are on track to meet their expectations of 5.5M wiiU by March.  So i'll explain it as best I can...

want to bet on it?  I say nintendo misses their 5.5M shipment figures by March 2013 thus selling below expectations.  1 month of avatar contol?

He wont take you up on it, he is to busy blaming everyone else for Nintnedo's problems.

I didn't blame anyone else.  I merely gave possible altenratives based on the context of the whoel industry, the state of affairs in Japan and historical factors.  AND even stated that it could very well be Nintendo's issue but I simply think it's outrageous to claim that is the sole fault.



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Train wreck on 11 December 2012
Viper1 said:
Train wreck said:
kitler53 said:
Viper1 said:
ethomaz said:
Nintendo is not on track to match their own fiscal year predictions.

Care to elaborate?


well you've seen the early numbers same and ethomaz and I.  no one can be sure at this point with 100% certainly but i don't think nintendo are on track to meet their expectations of 5.5M wiiU by March.  So i'll explain it as best I can...

want to bet on it?  I say nintendo misses their 5.5M shipment figures by March 2013 thus selling below expectations.  1 month of avatar contol?

He wont take you up on it, he is to busy blaming everyone else for Nintnedo's problems.

I didn't blame anyone else.  I merely gave possible altenratives based on the context of the whoel industry, the state of affairs in Japan and historical factors.  AND even stated that it could very well be Nintendo's issue but I simply think it's outrageous to claim that is the sole fault.

You are blaming everyone else: Patcher doom, not getting into mobile, stock market speculators, the Yen.  I dont see Nintendo's lack of execution these past 3 years (the Wii's late swoon, 3DS and its year of losses after its massive price cut, Wii U selling below wii levels) in any of your writings so far in this thread.



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kitler53 on 11 December 2012
Viper1 said:
kitler53 said:
Viper1 said:
ethomaz said:
Nintendo is not on track to match their own fiscal year predictions.

Care to elaborate?


well you've seen the early numbers same and ethomaz and I.  no one can be sure at this point with 100% certainly but i don't think nintendo are on track to meet their expectations of 5.5M wiiU by March.  So i'll explain it as best I can...

want to bet on it?  I say nintendo misses their 5.5M shipment figures by March 2013 thus selling below expectations.  1 month of avatar contol?

I thought bets were outlawed?  Or at least I think they were at some point.

I'm just not ready to make a claim they won't match their shipment projection with just 2 weeks of US sales, 1 week or Euro sales, and weekend Japanese launch sales. I'd like a little bigger sample size to work with than that.   And I'd hope that being on a sales website that most of us would feel that same way.

1. I think only ban bets are outlawed.

2. what's the fun of a bet where you have enough data to know the outcome with high confidence?  it's now or never cause really, a bet like this should have been made before getting even the first week launch numbers.  :P



Viper1 on 11 December 2012
Train wreck said:
Viper1 said:
Train wreck said:
kitler53 said:
Viper1 said:
ethomaz said:
Nintendo is not on track to match their own fiscal year predictions.

Care to elaborate?


well you've seen the early numbers same and ethomaz and I.  no one can be sure at this point with 100% certainly but i don't think nintendo are on track to meet their expectations of 5.5M wiiU by March.  So i'll explain it as best I can...

want to bet on it?  I say nintendo misses their 5.5M shipment figures by March 2013 thus selling below expectations.  1 month of avatar contol?

He wont take you up on it, he is to busy blaming everyone else for Nintnedo's problems.

I didn't blame anyone else.  I merely gave possible altenratives based on the context of the whoel industry, the state of affairs in Japan and historical factors.  AND even stated that it could very well be Nintendo's issue but I simply think it's outrageous to claim that is the sole fault.

You are blaming everyone else: Patcher doom, not getting into mobile, stock market speculators, the Yen.  I dont see Nintendo's lack of execution these past 3 years (the Wii's late swoon, 3DS and its year of losses after its massive price cut, Wii U selling below wii levels) in any of your writings so far in this thread.

Just going to requiote myself.

Viper1 said:

I'm not implying the sales are strong at all.  What I am saying is that blaming it solely on the sales ignores many other factors that were already at work dropping the price.

The strong Yen has been hammering it, and other companies, for a while now.
Pachter has been harsh on Nintendo in the past but to flat out state at the Game Monetization Summit just a few days ago that Nintendo is irrlevant would have a huge imapct.
Continued correction of the overinvestment spike by the DS and Wii rush.
Continued downtrend from the investor speculation that Nintendo would fully back mobile.

ALL these are to blame.  Saying it's just sales makes little sense given that Nintendo never gave investors a launch projection to evven work with.

My first sentence and last 2 sentences imply the sales could be a factor just the same.  But my overall point is that many of you are blaming it on just the sales with none of the other possibilities I presented despite it being logical that ALL of them are playing a part in the why of it all.



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SpartenOmega117 on 11 December 2012

Nintendo is definitely undervalued right now for anyone looking to go in. Yes the wii u is under performing and the 3ds is not doing so hot but even with the company's issues it still not THAT bad. The company owns the most iconic video game character in the world that will always sell boatloads. If Nintendo is really doomed with the console sales it still has the option to bring its games to the mobile platform and generate some serious dough. of course that is the worst case scenario and will likely not happen in the near future since Nintendo doing decent. Still it adds safety to the stock.



kitler53 on 11 December 2012
Viper1 said:
Heavenly_King said:
Viper1 said:
Heavenly_King said:
looks like WiiU is not selling as expected?

Which is funny because it is selling as expected.

How do you know?

How do you know it's not?


..because.  you've been back in this thread but conviently ignored my post and bet.  i submit that as positive proof that you don't believe that wiiU is selling as expected. 



Viper1 on 11 December 2012
kitler53 said:
Viper1 said:
Heavenly_King said:
Viper1 said:
Heavenly_King said:
looks like WiiU is not selling as expected?

Which is funny because it is selling as expected.

How do you know?

How do you know it's not?


..because.  you've been back in this thread but conviently ignored my post and bet.  i submit that as positive proof that you don't believe that wiiU is selling as expected. 

I'm not a fish...save your bait.

 

I don't take your bet because I don't bet on data that's barely a week old.   Would you have made a bet that Vita would sell great given it's launch figures?    Because you're making the opposite bet now based on similar launch figures.



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