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@avinash

This is enough to destroy wii fit with advertisement



 

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leo-j said:
if ps3 indeed is $299.99 by march or earlier, wii will no longer sell.

SDF, is that you?



When it happens I will laugh the hardest.



 

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leo-j said:
@avinash

This is enough to destroy wii fit with advertisement


 Won't change anything, see unlike Wii fit, eye toy lacks the exercise appeal plus it lacks the fun factor of Wii fit, plus that advertisement isn't family friendly, look at Wii fit ads, soft, friendly, family fun, on the othe rhand Sony ads seem to be more about power and agressiveness, appealing to 13-35 males yes, but not to the larger market



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

leo-j,

PS3 is not competing versus the Wii, at least for the moment, even with a 300$ price point, they will not attract the same crowd.



Time to Work !

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shams said:
rukusa said:
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Financially, the price cut makes sense, consoles have historically been sold at a loss until the tail end of their lifetime. The only consoles not sold at a loss are the Sega Saturn(sold at the price to manufacture) and the Nintendo Wii(sold at a $100 profit for Nintendo). Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony make most of its money off of game licensing, not the actual console. For every game released, they developer must pay $10,000 worth of licensing fees to Sony(its traditionally been $20,000 for all 3 companies, but this was another cut Sony made to encourage developers recently). They also make a bulk of their profit from peripherals, like memory cards and controllers.

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BTW, the bolded part is completely incorrect.

That is simply the cost of a devkit - and its only Sony that had such a ridiculous price on a PS3 devkit (Wii kits start from $2k). 

 


BTW the bolded part is completely _correct_.  You buy a devkit for 10k. Nice. Then you have to *publish*  the game. You need Sony's permission, and you pay licensing fees to do so.  This is Sony's cut of every PS3 game sold. That's how Sony gets paid for selling all those consoles at a loss! How do you think Sony recovers their HW losses? Magic? You play a flat fee upfront, plus a decling fee per unit sold.  THis applies to anthing carrying the PS3 logo.  Similar thign applies to using the Blu-Ray logo.  You can't just start printing BD movies - you gotta pay the fees first!

Ninentdo is famous for being *very* militant about licensing fees. If you didn't pay Ninty to use the Nintendo 'gold seal' on your games, expect to find yourself in court.  There were a number of 3rd party developers who tried to sell 'unlicensed' games for nintendo systems.  Nintendo sued them all into the ground. Maybe, having lost the last two generations, Nintendo is nicer now. And maybe Sony, having won the last two generations is teh bad guy this round....

 

 



Trying to convince me the Wii is a real adult game machine 'if you play it right' is like trying to convince me Tofu tastes great 'if you just cook it right'

@Leo. Oh dear.

Wasn't that meant to happen in late November, no wait - 40G release, or Europe bundle? 1st price shuffle?

Or perhaps you want to go down Crazzys route of naming 20 games that will somehow turn PS3 sales into top gear.

Just be happy with 2nd place, the PS3 is a good enough machine for you not to care about sales.



While I admit this is possible, I am thinking it would be funny if this was a rumor started by some XBox people so when the PS3 doesn't drop and the 360 does in March for GTA it will be all the sweeter.

Remember if they sell 10 million units this year, that would make this a 1 billion dollar decision. So this should not be taken lightly.

Personally I will be buying the PS3 when it hits $199 and has BC. My PS2 is dead and the only games that will pull me to Sony are Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy, and Final Fantasy. If I get PS2 emulation going on my PC first I may wait for the PS4.

If this does happen I predict the 40GB will have BC added this November to boost it's value along with a major pack-in title.

If they did go with another SKU (even though they said they are done with that game) they could do it with a 2 gig flash drive. Enough for a few game saves and to go online. Then sell a bigger hard drive separately.



Final* Word on Game Delays:

The game will not be any better or include more content then planned. Any commnets that say so are just PR hogwash to make you feel better for having to wait.

Delays are due to lack of proper resources, skill, or adequate planning by the developer.

Do be thankful that they have enough respect for you to delay the game and maintain its intended level of quality.

*naznatips is exempt

*Warning*

When reading posts by Leo-J you may suffer death by hilarity. VGChartz accepts no responsibility for any injury or death caused by these posts.



To be fair about leo j he was right about 1 prediction, lost odyssey wouldnt move 360 hardware above 10k in japan, he was right, surprisingly. To me this seems to good to be true, so that means it is. Ps3 probaly wont see a 299 price tag til at least the summer.