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freebs2 said:

I think PASBR is a missed opportunity for SCE, indipendently on how successfull the game will be.
It's clear their intention was to try replicating SSB success on Ps3, and doing so by putting a bunch of (not very) famous PS characters in a single brawl game. My question is, why did they have to replicate the "Nintendo characters" strategy? I think it would have been much better if they opted for a completely new brawl IP, using new characters instead of "all-stars".

From a gameplay point of view, this decision would have given game designers more freedom. They would have been able to make character and moves expecially designed for the purpose of brawling, instead of adapting characters taken from totally different fileds. They would have been able to add more player customization or RPG elements; on the other hand the chioce of "famuos" is limiting since you can't alter too much intellectual properties.

From a marketing point of view it may seem better to use famous characters but I have my sincere doubts about it. Sure, for Nintendo who has characters like Mario, Link and Pikachu it is an obvious choice.
SCE, on the other hand, doesn't have very popular characters (except for Kratos maybe, which is uncomparable to Mario anyway) but more importantly, they have never been too attached to characters. On the contrary SCE has always been about creating new characters, new stories, new IPs and that's not considered as a weakness but as a strenght by both the media and Sony fans.

I'm not into judging the final work of the developer, but everything about PASBR presentation (starting from the terrible -imo- name) made it look like a cheap SSB ripoff, a game without its own identity.
Imo if they made (and presented) it as a brand new IP it would have gathered more (and more positive) attention from both gamers and the media, so, in the end, it wold have sold more copies.


I completely agree. They should have created entirely new characters, although I do think they could have included a few characters like Kratos just because he would fit. 

And yeah, the name is terrible. I can understand mentioning Playstation. But why include All Stars AND Battle Royale? Having both is incredibly redundant. They could have just titled it Playstation All Stars or Playstation Battle Royale. That would have been ten times better.



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Jay520 said:

I completely agree. They should have created entirely new characters, although I do think they could have included a few characters like Kratos just because he would fit. 

And yeah, the name is terrible. I can understand mentioning Playstation. But why include All Stars AND Battle Royale? Having both is incredibly redundant. They could have just titled it Playstation All Stars or Playstation Battle Royale. That would have been ten times better.

Yes, a couple of famous characters would have been a cool bonus, just not as a standard.



People were expecting a similar game to Smash and they didn't get it. I played the game on a friends house and the game was fun, it is similar to Smash but I personally expected a much similar game. It's just like freebs2 said, this game would have better with original characters and try not to imitate the "Nintendo roster" feel. 



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CCFanboy said:
That is what you get for releasing this plagiarism to a fanbase which is demanding third party characters. Glad people gave this the finger. You cannot release a rip off this shameless and expect to come close to the figures that the real deal achieves.

Smash bros is the original and the best. Oh well. Back to the drawing board sony. You can still rip off pikmin. I respect microsoft for not going there. I have no idea how these guys can look themselves in the mirror.

Yeah yeah I heard 'it plays different'. It is still a rip off. I am calling them out the same way the sony defense force would cry foul if nintendo ripped off ico.

You're really not helping things phrasing things like this



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Areym said:

Just play the game. NOT THE DEMO. The finished, flesh-out game. Rent it for a week, play some arcade, local and online multiplayer. Just give it a try, it is inspired by Smash bros, we all know this but it has a life of its own.


I think the demo was enough to make me see it for what it is. If you saw I actually said I am aware it plays different but that doesn't change the fact it is a rip off. It still uses the same template as smash bros so that is hardly 'inspiration' is it? Its copying. Also given the mixed reviews the game is getting it really doesn't seem worth a purchase anyway.



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is 176k + digital really that bad though? Plus another 40k from vita. Sales seem pretty good as long as it can keep its legs churning through the holidays.



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The opening is pretty much what I expected. Should sell a million units down the road.

What I did find surprising though, only a 75 on Metacritic.



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Wow the damage control in this thread is absolutely marvelous, if we had half this effort put into National Disasters recovery would be almost instantaneous. It just amazes me how this went from a "5 million seller" to it will have legs. When was this suppose to dethrone SSB again? lol



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Ji99saw said:
Wow the damage control in this thread is absolutely marvelous, if we had half this effort put into National Disasters recovery would be almost instantaneous. It just amazes me how this went from a "5 million seller" to it will have legs. When was this suppose to dethrone SSB again? lol


Please list two people that said this game would be a "5 million seller." I'll give you one: Gilgamesh. Now, please give me just one more person who said this would be a "5 million seller.