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JayWood2010 said:
cunger said:
JayWood2010 said:
pezus said:
cunger said:
BasilZero said:


Tekken Advance (GBA)

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Tekken+Advance

Tekken 3D (3DS)

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Tekken+3D

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Tekken Dark Resurrection (PSP)

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Tekken%3A+Dark&publisher=&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200


Also.. Tekken is hardly exclusive..  They games may be exclusive in name only.  They reuse the same characters and materials from other tekken games. Nintendo needs completely unique exclusives a tekken on Nintendo usually feels like a lazy port.

Why do you ignore my responses? Tekken 1-4 were exclusive to Playstation and sold extremely well. Yet you said "Yeah exclusive fighters only work on Nintendo.."


I'll respond to it instead of him then......That was for the original PS.  Things has changed a lot since then.  I doubt Killer Instict would sell as well as the originals either. Is people forgetting why super Smash Bros does so well?

If Killer Instict was good i think there will be a market for it if it was on Wiiu.. Not so much on Xbox though.  Microsoft would probably ruin it and make you spend most of your time building stupid vehicles before you could do any actual gameplay.


Yes because that is what microsoft does haha  Whatever you want to believe lol  


They do!  Didn't you play Banjo's Nuts and Bolts?  What I described is exactly what Microsoft did. They ruined a great franchise by forgetting what it was actually about.



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cunger said:
JayWood2010 said:
cunger said:
JayWood2010 said:
pezus said:
cunger said:
BasilZero said:


Tekken Advance (GBA)

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Tekken+Advance

Tekken 3D (3DS)

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Tekken+3D

------------

Tekken Dark Resurrection (PSP)

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Tekken%3A+Dark&publisher=&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200


Also.. Tekken is hardly exclusive..  They games may be exclusive in name only.  They reuse the same characters and materials from other tekken games. Nintendo needs completely unique exclusives a tekken on Nintendo usually feels like a lazy port.

Why do you ignore my responses? Tekken 1-4 were exclusive to Playstation and sold extremely well. Yet you said "Yeah exclusive fighters only work on Nintendo.."


I'll respond to it instead of him then......That was for the original PS.  Things has changed a lot since then.  I doubt Killer Instict would sell as well as the originals either. Is people forgetting why super Smash Bros does so well?

If Killer Instict was good i think there will be a market for it if it was on Wiiu.. Not so much on Xbox though.  Microsoft would probably ruin it and make you spend most of your time building stupid vehicles before you could do any actual gameplay.


Yes because that is what microsoft does haha  Whatever you want to believe lol  


They do!  Didn't you play Banjo's Nuts and Bolts?  What I described is exactly what Microsoft did. They ruined a great franchise by forgetting what it was actually about.


Yeah i believe that was Rare's fault.  You need to remember microsoft and sony are just publishers, not developers.  Hopefully rare makes another good banjo again one day.  Either that or give it to nintendo because they will get a developer who can make it.




       

Reading this thread I can't help but feel that it's full of people who kept saying they expected it to fail acting surprised it's doing so poorly, and people who expected it to be a mega hit acting completely unsurprised that it's sold so poorly.

Well and Barozi.

Wonder if Turkish has already conceded his bet.



JayWood2010 said:
cunger said:
JayWood2010 said:
cunger said:
JayWood2010 said:
pezus said:
cunger said:
BasilZero said:


Tekken Advance (GBA)

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Tekken+Advance

Tekken 3D (3DS)

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Tekken+3D

------------

Tekken Dark Resurrection (PSP)

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Tekken%3A+Dark&publisher=&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200


Also.. Tekken is hardly exclusive..  They games may be exclusive in name only.  They reuse the same characters and materials from other tekken games. Nintendo needs completely unique exclusives a tekken on Nintendo usually feels like a lazy port.

Why do you ignore my responses? Tekken 1-4 were exclusive to Playstation and sold extremely well. Yet you said "Yeah exclusive fighters only work on Nintendo.."


I'll respond to it instead of him then......That was for the original PS.  Things has changed a lot since then.  I doubt Killer Instict would sell as well as the originals either. Is people forgetting why super Smash Bros does so well?

If Killer Instict was good i think there will be a market for it if it was on Wiiu.. Not so much on Xbox though.  Microsoft would probably ruin it and make you spend most of your time building stupid vehicles before you could do any actual gameplay.


Yes because that is what microsoft does haha  Whatever you want to believe lol  


They do!  Didn't you play Banjo's Nuts and Bolts?  What I described is exactly what Microsoft did. They ruined a great franchise by forgetting what it was actually about.


Yeah i believe that was Rare's fault.  You need to remember microsoft and sony are just publishers, not developers.  Hopefully rare makes another good banjo again one day.  Either that or give it to nintendo because they will get a developer who can make it.

I'm not sure if that is Rare's fault I have heard that Microsoft has put many demands on them and have forced most of the quality employees to leave Rare. Instead of actually let Rare make great games like they used to they are forced to make Kinect games. I don't trust Microsoft to handle ex Nintendo properties. I used to be excited about the possibility but there has been nothing but disappointment to date. 



Isn't this a good thing?? The fact that this game has failed. Honestly, gamers are punishing unoriginality. People can talk all they want about how this game is different and how LBP Karting is different from Mario Kart and they probably are. But the fact is that they "look" like ripoffs and I don't mind it that games that look like wripoffs fail. I would much rather reward Sony for games like Uncharted and Heavy Rain than for these games which were conceived by marketing people rather than passionate game designers.



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JayWood2010 said:
cunger said:
JayWood2010 said:
cunger said:
JayWood2010 said:
pezus said:
cunger said:
BasilZero said:


Tekken Advance (GBA)

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Tekken+Advance

Tekken 3D (3DS)

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Tekken+3D

------------

Tekken Dark Resurrection (PSP)

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Tekken%3A+Dark&publisher=&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200


Also.. Tekken is hardly exclusive..  They games may be exclusive in name only.  They reuse the same characters and materials from other tekken games. Nintendo needs completely unique exclusives a tekken on Nintendo usually feels like a lazy port.

Why do you ignore my responses? Tekken 1-4 were exclusive to Playstation and sold extremely well. Yet you said "Yeah exclusive fighters only work on Nintendo.."


I'll respond to it instead of him then......That was for the original PS.  Things has changed a lot since then.  I doubt Killer Instict would sell as well as the originals either. Is people forgetting why super Smash Bros does so well?

If Killer Instict was good i think there will be a market for it if it was on Wiiu.. Not so much on Xbox though.  Microsoft would probably ruin it and make you spend most of your time building stupid vehicles before you could do any actual gameplay.


Yes because that is what microsoft does haha  Whatever you want to believe lol  


They do!  Didn't you play Banjo's Nuts and Bolts?  What I described is exactly what Microsoft did. They ruined a great franchise by forgetting what it was actually about.


Yeah i believe that was Rare's fault.  You need to remember microsoft and sony are just publishers, not developers.  Hopefully rare makes another good banjo again one day.  Either that or give it to nintendo because they will get a developer who can make it.


I would like to see this happen.

I want to see Rare back under Nintendo where they belong.I believe somebody at Nintendo would know the proper directions those games would need to go in. I also want to see Banjo, Conker, etc in Smash Bros :)

maybe the masterminds will come back to the studio if Nintendo had them again. Could you imagine how they must have felt when they seen how successful the Wii was after they went to Microsoft under the impression that Nintendo was a sinking ship?

I bet Chris and Tim Stamper felt all warm inside LMAO XD XD



I would any game with a poor beta would get the curious to exhaust their interest and I felt both LittleBigPlanet Karting and Playstation All-Stars had poor beta's.

LittleBigPlanet Karting has long loading and the focus of fun isn't on local multiplayer (where kart racers do best).

Playstation All-Stars talked about too much, over saturated coverage... causes people to lose interest and most of the gameplay videos shown look like chaotic mess with the four players. Aside from the Robot Chicken video, the game's trailers have also not sold the fun and entertainment aspect of it.

I have PS All-Stars and I think it is a fine and fun game... great for local multiplayer and the game design, mechanics, character diversity, etc all work well for it while controls are generally pretty accessible. I think it will do well in long term with hopefully evergreen sales after some hands on parties take place and word of mouth helps game do better.



Barozi said:
Rafux said:
Better than LBP first week, I'm hoping word of mouth will put some legs on it.

Nope not better because LBP's street date was broken. So the true numbers should be closer to week 0 and week 1 combined.

You are right, I didn't know week 0 meant that.



That is what you get for releasing this plagiarism to a fanbase which is demanding third party characters. Glad people gave this the finger. You cannot release a rip off this shameless and expect to come close to the figures that the real deal achieves.

Smash bros is the original and the best. Oh well. Back to the drawing board sony. You can still rip off pikmin. I respect microsoft for not going there. I have no idea how these guys can look themselves in the mirror.

Yeah yeah I heard 'it plays different'. It is still a rip off. I am calling them out the same way the sony defense force would cry foul if nintendo ripped off ico.



One more thing to complete my year = senran kagura localization =D

CCFanboy said:
That is what you get for releasing this plagiarism to a fanbase which is demanding third party characters. Glad people gave this the finger. You cannot release a rip off this shameless and expect to come close to the figures that the real deal achieves.

Smash bros is the original and the best. Oh well. Back to the drawing board sony. You can still rip off pikmin. I respect microsoft for not going there. I have no idea how these guys can look themselves in the mirror.

Yeah yeah I heard 'it plays different'. It is still a rip off. I am calling them out the same way the sony defense force would cry foul if nintendo ripped off ico.