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Forums - Sales Discussion - PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale is a MAJOR flop - we need to talk about it

DigitalDevilSummoner on 29 November 2012
Jay520 said:
@ Jaywood

The game should have no problem making a profit. It looks like an extremely low budget PSN game. Probably didn't use many resources and could make profit with 500k, if not less.


I disagree, the game looks generic, unoriginal, uninteresting, lacks FF characters and Dante, a waste of one's online time compared to the alternatives, promises no story, looks terribly repetitive, horrible graphics considering the full price...

This game is the embodiment of Sony's arrogance.



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babuks on 29 November 2012

Looks like the game did not create as much buzz as it seemed.



enditall727 on 29 November 2012
cunger said:
RolStoppable said:

Hey guys,

I thought we need to talk about this:

PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale sold about 130k copies in the USA. In Europe it didn't even chart properly, but based on UK numbers that are estimated to be around 5k we can extrapolate numbers for the whole of Europe, let's say 20k. This may not be accurate, but 20k is not much anyway. So this means about 150k copies in America and Europe combined. Let's be honest here, this is a MAJOR flop. Not even the typical PS3 bundles will turn this game into a success.

Detractors have been long saying that Sony doesn't have the roster for this kind of game, but the general response was "nuh-uh". Needless to say, the expectations for this game were very high, although some people were more levelheaded in their predictions.

So can we still say that Sony games don't sell on Sony systems? Let's take a look:

PlayStation Move Heroes: 0.12m
LittleBigPlanet Karting: 0.13m
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale: 0.15m, but probably overtracked.

For comparison, Call of Duty: Black Ops II (PS3) sold 4.61m in week one alone.


This game is a oneoff I guess.  What Nintendo game will Sony copy next?


Mario Party!

but then again Sony already "copied" everything

 

Mario Kart = Crash Team Racing

Mario Party = Crash Bash (kind of)

Smash Bros = *ridiculously-long-ass-generic-ass-any-body-could-have-thougt-of-that-name-ass-name * Battle Royale

 

they should have just named it "Sony's Battle Royale" like i said before

 

but uhhh there is nothing left to really copy i guess unless we are talking a fully dedicated Playstation Tablet controller on PS4

 

now its time for Nintendo to do some copying



Jay520 on 29 November 2012
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Jay520 said:
@ Jaywood

The game should have no problem making a profit. It looks like an extremely low budget PSN game. Probably didn't use many resources and could make profit with 500k, if not less.


I disagree, the game looks generic, unoriginal, uninteresting, lacks FF characters and Dante, a waste of one's online time compared to the alternatives, promises no story, looks terribly repetitive, horrible graphics considering the full price...

This game is the embodiment of Sony's arrogance.



all that may be true (I don't know), but what exactly are you disagreeing with?

DigitalDevilSummoner on 29 November 2012

I am reporting you for calling that little s*** Dante.



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enditall727 on 29 November 2012
chapset said:
Hawkeyejonjon said:
i don't think its a major flop. with no advertising and call of duty came out plus it came out on black friday week plus halo 4 to overshadow it, it did fair for its first week. i say its a minor flop. Uncharted 1 first week sales were weak but look at it now. First week sales for Uncharted 1 was 0.10, didn't make it close to a million sales but now Uncharted 1 sold 5+ million units sold. PS3 games tend to slowly rise in sales because they don't advertise nothing. i say wait till november 2013 and if it sold less than 1 million units than yes it is a major flop but don't base it as a major flop in one week in sales. wait till it has been on the market for a year and than decide if its a major flop or not

bullshit, it's one of the most advertise Sony game I have seen in a long time, on tv anyway

that says a lot because i have not seen any advertisement for this game except for when i had to FORCE myself to find some when i seen the european commercial

but that doesnt really do my American self any justice though

 



enditall727 on 29 November 2012
JayWood2010 said:
Jay520 said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
so a new game selling 130K in usa in its first week is a MAJOR flop? sony haters are unbelievable sometiems


For what people made it out to be yeah it is.  I don't know about Rol or where his loyalties stand but this has nothing to do with hating sony, at least on my part.  This has something to do with the ridiculous predictions for this game.


every game will have its ridiculous predictors. As you know, nearly everyone predicted Halo 4 to sell more than it did first week. Doesn't mean its a flop. On the other hand, most people predicted lifetime sales for PABR at around 1-2m, which it should do.

 I said from the beginning (wello at least after the beta)  that this game will not sell more than a million unless it gets bundled and I still believe that.  It may pull of 700k-900k without a bundle but I dont see it doing better than that.  Now the next game, if they really improve it then it could do much better.  What I'd like to know though, and if someone has the information tell me, how much does this game need to sell to profit?  That is what is important.

I read somewhere that the budget for the game wasn't big at all.

They weren't really pushing the power OF TEH CELL with this game lol

 

but im not really sure for the most part



DigitalDevilSummoner on 29 November 2012
Jay520 said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Jay520 said:
@ Jaywood

The game should have no problem making a profit. It looks like an extremely low budget PSN game. Probably didn't use many resources and could make profit with 500k, if not less.


I disagree, the game looks generic, unoriginal, uninteresting, lacks FF characters and Dante, a waste of one's online time compared to the alternatives, promises no story, looks terribly repetitive, horrible graphics considering the full price...

This game is the embodiment of Sony's arrogance.


all that may be true (I don't know), but what exactly are you disagreeing with?

I am disagreeing with the part where the game "should have no problem making a profit".

It looks like a suicide attempt from the trailers and gameplay videos alone.

I mean this is not another game, this has the Sony brand in the title.

A small profit should not be acceptable from a game exploiting like this some of the biggest names of the PS3.



outlawauron on 29 November 2012
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
I am reporting you for calling that little s*** Dante.

I think it's hilarious that they somehow forget that Dante from DMC 1-4 was a flamer as well.



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Jaywood2010 on 29 November 2012
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Jay520 said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Jay520 said:
@ Jaywood

The game should have no problem making a profit. It looks like an extremely low budget PSN game. Probably didn't use many resources and could make profit with 500k, if not less.


I disagree, the game looks generic, unoriginal, uninteresting, lacks FF characters and Dante, a waste of one's online time compared to the alternatives, promises no story, looks terribly repetitive, horrible graphics considering the full price...

This game is the embodiment of Sony's arrogance.


all that may be true (I don't know), but what exactly are you disagreeing with?

I am disagreeing with the part where the game "should have no problem making a profit".

It looks like a suicide attempt from the trailers and gameplay videos alone.

I mean this is not another game, this has the Sony brand in the title.

A small profit should not be acceptable from a game exploiting like this some of the biggest names of the PS3.

It may not be good but that has nothing to do with profits.   What he said was it is low budget so it isnt that hard to make profits and that is true regardless if its good or bad.