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Jaywood2010 on 16 November 2012

No. Sony is fine in that area. People don't trust them with handhelds but it's a different story with consoles. What they need to do though is make the PS4 easier to program for than the PS3




       

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justinian on 16 November 2012
BasilZero said:
Ever since the PSP the Playstation brand had been weakened (at least in its dominating image it had before) but I dont think the Vita will weaken overall third party support for Orbis.

The worst thing that can happen is if Sony drops the portable system family altogether and mainly focus on the consoles.


You say it is the worst thing but I say it is the best thing.

There was a debate on some other site about Sony just keeping future portables in the Japanese (Asian) market.

Heaps of money will be saved and it can be profitable. There is already a big enough Japanese games only market.

OT:

I believe consoles to be individual entities and the fate of one reflects little on the other.

Gameboy's overwhelming popularity didn't do much for Gamecube sales and 3P support... relatively speaking.



Dgc1808 on 16 November 2012
happydolphin said:
Dgc1808 said:
Xxain said:
I hate when people say Vita's price is problem..It isnt. People are willing to spend anything as long as the value matches or xxceeds the asking price. Look the Apple devices. Vita has lots of problem being a very very small target audience. Removing kids from the equation was a big mistake. No, PS4 will not suffer. Alot of developers are wedging there bets on PS4/360. They cant survive not supporing PS4 and Wii U


This shit... this is the problem. People think this is actually true.

It was true for the 3DS, and that had a fair library in its launch window compared to Vita's.


The library isn't the problem with the vita. It's not leaving anyone out. Even at launch there was Modnation, LittleDeviants, Mutant Space Blobs and a ton of smaller titles on PSN for kids. What's hurting the Vita is this idea that it doesn't have these games or anything worthwhile for anyone for that matter (not just kids) and SONY's too stupid to try and fix this by marketting properly.



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happydolphin on 16 November 2012
Dgc1808 said:

The library isn't the problem with the vita. It's not leaving anyone out. Even at launch there was Modnation, LittleDeviants, Mutant Space Blobs and a ton of smaller titles on PSN for kids. What's hurting the Vita is this idea that it doesn't have these games or anything worthwhile for anyone for that matter (not just kids) and SONY's too stupid to try and fix this by marketting properly.

I am so confused. Is it not leaving anyone out or does it have nothing worthwhile for anyone?



Xxain on 16 November 2012
Dgc1808 said:
happydolphin said:
Dgc1808 said:
Xxain said:
I hate when people say Vita's price is problem..It isnt. People are willing to spend anything as long as the value matches or xxceeds the asking price. Look the Apple devices. Vita has lots of problem being a very very small target audience. Removing kids from the equation was a big mistake. No, PS4 will not suffer. Alot of developers are wedging there bets on PS4/360. They cant survive not supporing PS4 and Wii U


This shit... this is the problem. People think this is actually true.

It was true for the 3DS, and that had a fair library in its launch window compared to Vita's.


The library isn't the problem with the vita. It's not leaving anyone out. Even at launch there was Modnation, LittleDeviants, Mutant Space Blobs and a ton of smaller titles on PSN for kids. What's hurting the Vita is this idea that it doesn't have these games or anything worthwhile for anyone for that matter (not just kids) and SONY's too stupid to try and fix this by marketting properly.


Of course Vita's games are problem. Vita's current library does not justifying spending 250 bucks for it, mainly because does not have its own image. In regards to kids, no matter what SONY does they can repair that piece of damage. Everything about Vita even in  production stage was aimed at an older audience. SONY's OG target audience was 18-25 year old Males gamers,  Your answer is "Theres tons of stuff for kids on Vita" and you may be right but that does not automatically make Vita kid appropriate. Choosing your begins waay before the games. It begins with console itself. What would an average parent buy there kid? 3DS or a Vita? Wii or PS3? Super Mario or God War?. There is nothing about Vita design and its agenda that kids were ever part of the formula. Its very similar to what happened to PS3



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Dgc1808 on 16 November 2012
Xxain said:
Dgc1808 said:
happydolphin said:
Dgc1808 said:
Xxain said:
I hate when people say Vita's price is problem..It isnt. People are willing to spend anything as long as the value matches or xxceeds the asking price. Look the Apple devices. Vita has lots of problem being a very very small target audience. Removing kids from the equation was a big mistake. No, PS4 will not suffer. Alot of developers are wedging there bets on PS4/360. They cant survive not supporing PS4 and Wii U


This shit... this is the problem. People think this is actually true.

It was true for the 3DS, and that had a fair library in its launch window compared to Vita's.


The library isn't the problem with the vita. It's not leaving anyone out. Even at launch there was Modnation, LittleDeviants, Mutant Space Blobs and a ton of smaller titles on PSN for kids. What's hurting the Vita is this idea that it doesn't have these games or anything worthwhile for anyone for that matter (not just kids) and SONY's too stupid to try and fix this by marketting properly.


Of course Vita's games are problem. Vita's current library does not justifying spending 250 bucks for it, mainly because does not have its own image. In regards to kids, no matter what SONY does they can repair that piece of damage. Everything about Vita even in  production stage was aimed at an older audience. SONY's OG target audience was 18-25 year old Males gamers,  Your answer is "Theres tons of stuff for kids on Vita" and you may be right but that does not automatically make Vita kid appropriate. Choosing your begins waay before the games. It begins with console itself. What would an average parent buy there kid? 3DS or a Vita? Wii or PS3? Super Mario or God War?. There is nothing about Vita design and its agenda that kids were ever part of the formula. Its very similar to what happened to PS3


So much wtf...

"does not have it's own image" - As I said "What's hurting the Vita is this idea that it doesn't have these games"

We're essentially saying the same thing here.

"no matter what SONY does they can't repair that peice of damage" - So what you're saying is, getting better games isn't the solution and therefore not the problem? Because better games for everyone is doable. You're just contradicting yourself.

"and you may be right but that does not automatically make the Vita kid appropriate" - Console with games for kids =/= kid appropriate console. Gotcha. Makes sense. So now you're saying that games aren't the problem again?

"Super Mario or God of War?" - What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Are you asking me which do I prefer? God of War. Sadly there isn't one for the Vita.

"There's nothing about the Vita design and agenda that suggests that kids were ever part of the formula" - Ok. Welcome Park, LittleBigPlanet, LittleDevients, Mutant Space Blogs, Motorstorm RC, User Interface filled with simplistic icons and smily faces and an extremely child friendly intro when you first boot up the system, Smart As..., Super Monkey Ball, Frobisher Says, Modnation RoadTrip, Fireworks, Reality fig 

man, fuck it. Was gonna list a bunch of shit and end with "Yea, none of that ever happened" and say something but I'm wasting my time again. Stay ignorant. Keep forgetting it's a waste of time arguing on the internet about stuff like this.



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