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MrBubbles on 16 November 2012
Icy-Zone said:
MrBubbles said:
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The Israelis are bullying the Arabs, and are given sympathy by the West, because they claim that Jewish people occupied that land from ancient times. Why else would they be granted land in that specific region of the world, right?

But why did the West support, so adamantly, the creation of Israel, which divided an already established nation right down the middle? We all know that America would never create a nation inside it's borders for all the Native Americans, that divided America's East from West. There has to be a motive behind all of this that isn't transparent for us to see.

It's really sad to people getting upset over other people's comments, only because they were not "politically correct." With that said, let me say this: I believe that America and Israel are worse than the Nazis. Not only have they committed some of the most heinous global atrocities in this age (many mimicking how the Nazis treated the Jews), but they've also done it sneakily, and are very underhanded. At least the Nazis were up front about their crimes.

cry to me some more about how the obese gazans dont get to eat 20 cheeseburgers at ever meal you degenerate slimeball, then crawl back to whatever cesspit you crawled from.

 


Are you Israeli by any chance? Normally I wouldn't ask this type of question, but you just really went after me with what's highlighted above!

sadly we seem to share the same country.   i say its sad because somehow you made it through our education system (or did you?)  and still remained an incompetent bumbling fool.   your ignorance in making the comments you did is near incomprehensible.    I am not jewish either, if that is going to be your next question.   a great many people from all walks of life suffered unspeakable horrors at the hands of the nazis, your comments quite literally cause me to feel physically ill.

 

 


I'm sure the Afghanis, Iraqis, and Palestenians can say the same about America and Israel.

If this is too much for you to hear, and is causing you to feel physically ill and emotional, maybe you shouldn't involve yourself in these types of discussions. No need to attack others with your insults either, you're making yourself look like a complete joke.


did you even look at the pictures i posted? and you still want to call them nazis?

 

well in that case i apologize.  i did not realize you were mentally deficient when i first spoke so harshly to you.  i would never treat someone like you in such a way.

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mai on 16 November 2012

That's unfair to say Americans and Israeli are worse than Nazis, it's a long way for both of them to get to the heights of Nazis or Brits. But I beleive that was just a hyperbole to get attention. Still no reason in trying to shock people with scary pictures. I can do that, too:

Just out of curiosity, does somebody recognize it?



MrBubbles on 16 November 2012

based on everything in the picture, including who is posting it....i would say vietnam...



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mai on 16 November 2012
MrBubbles said:
based on everything in the picture, including who is posting it....i would say vietnam...

It's not just Vietnam, it's very specific part of Veitnam every more or less educated person should recognize ;) And what's up with "who is posting" part?



sperrico87 on 16 November 2012

US should immediately drop all foreign aid, including what we give to Israel. We should stop sending them weapons and subsidizing their economy. We're in debt up to our eyeballs and we gain nothing from being their back-up.



 

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hatmoza on 16 November 2012
Mr Khan said:
Okay, i've culled a few folks in this thread

And with that, let me say that while this thread does not merit closure (as this is a legitimate topic, and most of the folks here are being reasonable), some of y'all really need to stop saying offensive stuff.

I have a low tolerance for some of the BS the Israelis pull, but i do understand that they feel threatened. At the same time, one has to understand the ineffectual and corrupt nature of the "legitimate" Palestinian party, Fatah, and that Hamas, while murderous and violent, are also likely the more honest of the two. Radical Islam should be condemned, but one must understand where this sort of thing is coming from. Terrorism isn't so much about ideology as it is about desperation; people in a desperate condition will latch onto an ideology that gives them an outlet. In America and Europe in the late 19th century, it was Anarchism. In the early 20th century, Bolshevik Socialism or Fascism, mid 20th century, Communism.


You'd be surprised how little the average Palestinian cares for Fatah or Hamas. They are genrally if not mostly hated by people in the West Bank.



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MrBubbles on 16 November 2012
mai said:
MrBubbles said:
based on everything in the picture, including who is posting it....i would say vietnam...

It's not just Vietnam, it's very specific part of Veitnam every more or less educated person should recognize ;) And what's up with "who is posting" part?


i think you know what i mean, my dear very anti us russian friend lol :)  which limits what asian conflicts you are likely to draw from for it especially in the context of the thread.  

there is obviously an event to go along with it, but its not a picture i recall off the top of my head.   i guess i could go into it more, but i gather your point is simply the US isnt perfect?    which i mean...of course it isnt... im sure the picture of that guy's work  in afghanistan not too long ago murdering that couple dozen people and burning the bodies wouldnt be pretty either, but its not an actual part of their operations. (i reverse imaged searched it and its definitely problematic event but still the actions of a small group).  if we were going to bash the US i would rather use the waterboarding thing because its torture and they executed people for doing it to their soldiers.    things cant unbecome torture and all (even if in terms of torture its not as bad as it could be)....which was authorised at the highest level and that person should be at the ICC for it....



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MrBubbles on 16 November 2012

A rocket hit jerusalem!!



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kaneada on 16 November 2012
tigerblud1 said:

I agree with you that there is too much violence in the Islamic world. And yes, muslims are told not to trust the jews because they apparently outed Jesus Christ to the Romans. (Theres a difference in Christain and Muslim history)

And moreover, I hate those muslims who take asylum in Europe and then turn against the countries giving them shelter.

 

Be it terrorism, be it rallying against the Veterans or soldiers. It is wrong.

 

You are expected to respect the law of the land you are living in. These people spoil the name of Islam, and personally, I believe they should be deported back to the shitholes they came from.

 

When you can't respect your new home, you don't deserve to be there.

 

Funny how neither of those histories can't be verfied by actual history...

The way I see it WWIII is invevitable at this point. Something devastating will have to happen to the region before people will question their belief in  violence...Right now its fun and games, soon it will be war, and then those that are left alive will all be questioning whether it was worth the price they paid to represent their beliefs...



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mai on 16 November 2012

MrBubbles said:

i think you know what i mean, my dear very anti us russian friend lol :)  which limits what asian conflicts you are likely to draw from for it especially in the context of the thread.

there is obviously an event to go along with it, but its not a picture i recall off the top of my head.   i guess i could go into it more, but i gather your point is simply the US isnt perfect?    which i mean...of course it isnt... im sure the picture of that guy's work  in afghanistan not too long ago murdering that couple dozen people and burning the bodies wouldnt be pretty either, but its not an actual part of their operations. (i reverse imaged searched it and its definitely problematic event but still the actions of a small group).  if we were going to bash the US i would rather use the waterboarding thing because its torture and they executed people for doing it to their soldiers.    things cant unbecome torture and all (even if in terms of torture its not as bad as it could be)....which was authorised at the highest level and that person should be at the ICC for it....

Anti-US? O_o That's new. You just having grudge against me for whatever I did to you. Don't be, if I was mean, I'm sorry :D

It's My Lai, just a tip of the iceberg of your atrocities in Veitnam. They don't teach you that in school? Shame.

My points are:
- Posting pictures in attempt to get emotional reactions instead of arguments is wrong.
- Atrocities do happen more or less often  regardless, especially in war conflicts. But the essential difference between, say, you, despite how common said atrocities might be (like in Vietnam), how desperately an army command is trying to conceal these facts, how laughable court decisions in regard to people who committed war crimes could be etc., and Nazis or Brits - is the latter ones did happen to put into practice a policy of purposeful genocide and other various mistreatment, which were planned and approved by high-ranked authorities (well, more or less, there're some questionable decisions I could think of, like bombings of certain German cities and nuclear bombings of Japan during WW2).

//Though honestly all of you, imperialists, do have one thing in common throughout the history - so called white man guilt - and in all seriosness I find it strange to discuss things like who killed less untermenschen, as if it makes the winner of such a contest morally superior.