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Mr Khan said:

DanneSandin illustrated it better. Bananaking is being deliberately obtuse. He could have said "i thought LBP was better," and then this thread would be half as long, if that.


I don't understand that. Why should people have to confirm that their opinion is....their opinion. If someone says blue is better than red, then it's obviously known that they're not speaking objectively, they're giving their opinion. If you give a statement that's obviously subjective, then it's pretty redundant to have to say "imo" or "i think."

But really though, my problem is really with the way he was responded to earlier in this thread. I don't have a problem with the debate honestly, no matter how silly I think it is; it's moreso his treatment in the first few pages that struck a nerve with me.



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pezus said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Sorry , a good 2D platformer.

Well, LBP is 2.5D

That doesn't make it any better though.



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pezus said:
Jay520 said:
amp316 said:
Jay520 said:
Mr Khan said:

Bananaking is playing the "my opinion = truth" card, which has merited little but ridicule.


I don't think so. The OP asked a question and I assume he wanted an honest answer. Bananaking gave his answer and went further by saying LBP was the superior game. Honestly, what's wrong with this? It's his own opinion and he has a right to it. This looks more like Mario fans getting upset because someone enjoys LBP more. 

You're right about bananaking having the right to his opinion, but people have the right to state that they prefer Mario to LBP to him.  If I went into a thread and said that I thought that Avatar was better than the original Star Wars that would be my right, but it would be the right of others to say that I was wrong as long as they did so respectfully.


I agree with everything except for that last word. I saw a lot of disrespect actually, espescially in the beginning of this thread. The meme gifs of people laughing, literally calling his opinion laughable, people saying LBP sucks, and someone even said BananaKing was trying to undermine Nintendo, or something like that.

I thought posting gifs like that wasn't allowed after that huge Forza vs. GT debate a while back. Multiple people got banned for using gifs in the same style

gifs about people lauging are now offensive ?

*would post facepalm gif but is now afraid to*



To the Nintendo fanbots who are both hyper sensitive to criticism directed toward Nintendo and praise directed toward their competitors while simultaneously showing such insensitivity toward those who disagree with you, what's wrong with you? Where does your loyalty to a giant, faceless corporation come from? Pointing out the fact that LBP has been garnering greater critical acclaim than SMB should not receive such a reaction. There's a reason why I don't waste my time "discussing" anything on this or any other gaming forum, a total lack of maturity. Goodbye again.



DanneSandin said:
bananaking21 said:
fighter said:
DanneSandin said:
 

 

Recognise yourself much?

I have provided proof that the established game industry as a whole still thinks that SMB is a superior game compared to almost everything. In other words: game journalists thinks that SMB, a 30 year old game, is better than LBP. SMB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LBP. It doesn't matter how old the game is. After 30 years it is still superior to LBP. Fact. Logic.


i second that

please dont try to insult or offend me as i have not insulted or offended anyone in this thread. i would like to point out though that you are clearly just trying to prove that SMB is better then LBP, while my responses where to argue the point i made out while REPLYING TO THE OP. even if the SMB  franchise was better 30 years ago in professionals perception in the time being it is not. LBP has the upper hand and that is why sony didnt make another 2D platforming game, that is the simple answer to the OP's question

If I insulted you, I am sorry. It's just frustrating that you won't acknowledge the fact that professionals STILL thinks that SMB is the better game. With the links I gave you it's painfully clear that professionals still thinks that that game is better/superior to LBP. It's never gonna change. Just admit that it's YOUR opinion that LBP is superior, because I have showed you that the professionals thinks that SMB is better, even though 30 years have past. In 30 more years SMB will still be better thab LBP. You're avoiding what logic and facts I provide, and therefore I post a brick wall.

where did i say SMB wasnt a better game in reviews opinion? im just saying that doesnt matter now, as that game is now 30 years old and doesnt matter (to sony or nintendo) because it doesnt sell systems. the games that sell systems are the games that are coming out now, thats what i was saying.thats why i was comparing the newer games. what matters is what is coming out now. if you must know in my opinion i prefer super mario land on the snes more than LBP, i cant honestly say that that is an objective choice as my memories of super mario land are filled with nostalgia, its probably the first video game i ever played (cant remember i been playing for literally as long as i remember) and i havent played the game for over 15 years. i would have to play the game again. i cant give an objective opinion on which game is better because of that reason. i have to play mario again and only then can i give my personal opinion



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pezus said:
amp316 said:
pezus said:
jesus fucking christ. This whole thread is basically about Mario vs. LBP.


What else would it be about?  Obviously someone was goung to compare LBP to SMB when it was implied that Sony has not attempted to make a SMB style game.

The funny thing is that in the OP LBP wasn't even brought up, so those defending it are admitting that it is a copy without even knowing it.


Actually, bananaking brought it up by saying Sony already have a superior platforming game. A platforming game is not by definition a mario copy.

I suppose that you're right but as often as certain people want to say that LBP is different than Mario, they also want to compare the two and say how it's better than Mario.  It's a case of wanting to have have your cake and eat it too.  While it's true that a 2D platformer isn't by definiton a Mario copy, it is the gold standard by which others are judged and the series that really started the platforming craze.  As much as I like the Sonic, I would be disingenous if I didn't think that Sega was trying to create their own Mario and I'm pretty sure that Sony was trying to make their own Mario with Sackboy and LBP.   



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TruckOSaurus said:
pezus said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Sorry , a good 2D platformer.

Well, LBP is 2.5D

That doesn't make it any better though.

It does make LBP better in the sense that you don't necessarily have to jump things - you can sidestep them (the less you have to jump the better LBP is lol)



pezus said:
TruckOSaurus said:

That doesn't make it any better though.

But it makes your original statement invalid. They haven't done a major 2D platformer as far as I know.

All jokes and PR aside, LBP is still a 2D platformer, being able to switch planes doesn't magically make it a new genre.



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pezus said:
fighter said:

gifs about people lauging are now offensive ?

*would post facepalm gif but is now afraid to*

They are when they are obviously meant to belittle the one you're replying to. Guess the mods don't care now, but they certainly did a few months back 

and what do you think facepalm memes are for ?

are you new to the internet ?



amp316 said:
pezus said:
amp316 said:
pezus said:
jesus fucking christ. This whole thread is basically about Mario vs. LBP.


What else would it be about?  Obviously someone was goung to compare LBP to SMB when it was implied that Sony has not attempted to make a SMB style game.

The funny thing is that in the OP LBP wasn't even brought up, so those defending it are admitting that it is a copy without even knowing it.


Actually, bananaking brought it up by saying Sony already have a superior platforming game. A platforming game is not by definition a mario copy.

I suppose that you're right but as often as certain people want to say that LBP is different than Mario, they also want to compare the two and say how it's better than Mario.  It's a case of wanting to have have your cake and eat it too.  While it's true that a 2D platformer isn't by definiton a Mario copy, it is the gold standard by which others are judged and the series that really started the platforming craze.  As much as I like the Sonic, I would be disingenous if I didn't think that Sega was trying to create their own Mario and I'm pretty sure that Sony was trying to make their own Mario with Sackboy and LBP.   

well the two games are 2D platformers so they can be compared easily. there is a big difference between battlefield and halo for example but people can still comapre them because they are bpth FPS games. just because two games arent like each other doenst mean you cant compare them. no one can deny what mario/nintendo did with the industry back in the 80's. sony is trying to create there own mario but in a more financial point of view, they arent making the same game. they are trying to create their own mario in the more general point of view, they are trying to create their own mascot and system seller, i dont see anything wrong with that or anything that makes LBP a clone of mario