1. I already told you that downloading wired will always be better.   But downloading isn't the same thing as online gaming.

2. He's also damn near 100 feet away from the router, in an office building, going through several walls.

3. Notice his ping was heavily fluctuating and not consistant.  That means he's got problems with his Wireless which he even points out himself.

4. Either way his connection pings were still low enough for online gaming.

5. 99.9% of video gamers will not be gaming in an office bulding, through mutiple walls, 100 feet way from the router.

6. Buy the dongle.

Wii U has no Ethernet port and Vita haz no gaemz. One of the two is easier to fix than the other.

we're still going,i'm starting to think the 18m or so hardcore COD players won't be going to the WiiU now

yeah that "hardcore" COD players won't be coming... lolololol

Even the "outdated last gen Wii" as alot of unsmart people call it dropped the ethernet port so its no wonder the "current gen WiiU" as alot of other unsmart people call it doesnt have it.

:)

That is 1ms better than my prediction (are you sure it isn't 16ms?), and it was without knowing the model.

Still my point is valid because if you really cared so much about lag you could have bought a TV with half the lag for half the money of that Viera.

And TV lag is way more important because it affects both online and offline gaming, messes with your timing in any game with complex commands like fighting games, and is off your reaction time because the extra time the tv it takes to display the image means that what you're watching have already happened in the game.

Edit - You should be thankful that the Wii U controller screen does have less than 1 frame of lag :P

I play with a guy I met on smashboards and he can't play on my flatscreen he need to play on my crt tv due to lag.

It was 15.xxx ms, very close to be rounded to 16ms.

Your point was that I was not even aware of my screens input lag. But hey, of course you can show me a 46-47" screen which has better input lag. Maybe I will consider it to replace my working room tv, which is pretty old. I'm waiting.

You are just plain wrong about that, everyone has input lag. I think most people have at least 16ms input lag, usually even more. Therefore, that extra lag from wifi is always just extra lag compared to people with wired connections. As it also being said many times in this thread, wifi latency fluctuates which could bring you some lag spikes. Those are the worst on multiplayer games.

TV lag is a big issue in fighting games. It messes with your hand-eye coordination and makes you whiff shoryukens and other moves like a noob. I know well...

Again, if you cared about lag you would prioritize lag over size. 32" is more than enough unless you live in a palace.

Nikkom has posted here a wifi test with 8ms of ping using his laptop, so the minimum of 16 ms of lag for everybody... just no. If you have wifi spikes then you have a problem in your connection or you need to put your console closer to the router like Viper1 have explained before.

And again, if the sum of all the lag is below 16 ms you won't notice almost anything. Time is a discrete variable in videogames.