When you consider the FOV, size of terrain, level of detail...even computer AI...Halo 4 is absolutely the best technical achievement on consoles this gen. Nothing was sacrificed to achieve the level of detail in Halo 4.

Uncharted 2, 3 and Halo 4 are top 3.

I'm not a English expert but "on the console" references to "Xbox 360", no?

I doubt it...For xbox probably :/

Hey maybe their review doesnt say that IDK I was just mentioning stuff off the top of my head.

IMO there are only 4 other games you can put in the same category as Halo 4.  Uncharted 3, Killzone 3, God of War 3 and Forza Horizon.  All thos3 games look fantastic and at that point it becomes subjective.  Which art style you prefer is a huge part of it.

I haven't played it and I gave it a 10/10 and I don't even have an xbox (yet) lol or like halo for that matter XD

I want to add Gears 3 too... the Forza Horizon I can't say because I didn't play it too.

You might not, but many others do.

Its the same way I dont see sandbox games such as Halo 4 and Crysis 2 on consoles being nearly as impressive as a linear game due to the fact that time is invested into other things than small small details such as particles, textures and what-not.

I've played most of the games you listed as well and Uncharted 3 along with God of War 3 is just on a whole other level. Be it fixed camera or linear corridors => They allow for the most subtle details that are otherwise ignored when playing a more open game.

Halo 4 and Crysis 2 are sandbox games???

The best graphics on console games this gen are likely racers and sims, but that's kind of an unfair comparison due to the nature of rendering those types of games compared to most other genres.
I haven't seen Halo 4 myself yet, but if its a good improvement over Halo Reach, then surely it must be a contender for best graphics in a console game (notice I don't say "best looking" since that takes other things into account as well, I find Dishonored to be better looking than Gears of Ware, for instance).

With all due respect my friend:
"Halo 4 is absolutely the best technical achievement on consoles this gen"

Now how about the visual part and not what is technically impressive?

Nothing was sacrificed you say: Yeah sure because the game itself is open. Think of it like this:

You are spending 10 hours making one area.

Will that area not look better if it was smaller and you could focus on every tiny tidbit detail as well as save space to have higher quality textures due to it not being as demanding?

Or would a much larger space where you just cant focus on every little tiny detail, and theres a lot of copy paste going on (im over exaggerating) in order to make that room complete.

At the end of the day: Were you to look at both games side by side without any knowledge of what is what (Halo is more open, Uncharted for example is not) do you realise which would be more of the "looker"?

Do any of you understand that if 343 made a game similar to Uncharted (im not saying they should and that you want it), but i am confident that the game would look drastically better. When discussing visuals and visuals alone, just use common sense. It really isnt that complicated.

Now were this thread renamed to "Halo 4 best technical and aesthetic game of this gen", then that's atleast a much more valid thing to say.