chocoloco said: selnor said: chocoloco said: BenVTrigger said: Im not saying theres anything wrong with how people are acting or that anyone is being jerks. There are however a few people who have posted in this thread just listing a list of exclusives on PS3 being better looking. People who dont even own a 360 and will never play Halo 4 Sorry, Ben, but  the game is very weak in graphics quality. Especially when put against the gens best looking games. Not everyone is so in love with the series that they cannot see it is a pretty bad looking game by the standards of now. I think Borderlands 2 looks way better. So many games do. Digital Foundry says otherwise buddy. And technically, not aesthetically. Halo 4 is right at the top or fighting for the top best grapics this generation, regardless what you say. Its factual Halo 4 is technically impressive. Now opinion is I think it looks the best this generation. Your opinion will differ.  But saying Halo 4 is very weak graphics is just trolling. Its like me saying Uncharted 3 or GOW3 has weak graphics. Because Halo 4 IS that amazing graphically. I am not the only one by far that is saying it is not the best. Many people that own both consoles are saying this. I will not debate it because it is stupid. I came to give my view. Your view sees anything MS through rose tinted glasses. I do not trust your opinions on anything concerning gaming. Ben is at least a little less ultra biased, not you.

No many who are known to favor a certain console are disagreeing. Even calling it weak or saying not even best on 360. The game looks so good that its easy for anyone that has actually experienced Halo 4's grapics firsthand to call these as fanboys comments. 

Saying not sure if its beats x game but its astounding nonetheless I can understand. But not the pure troll comments.

Many on VGC that truly own both consoles and are pretty good at posting have said Halo 4 is either the best or up there. Looking back to thread the majority of double owners actually side with DF.

chocoloco said: selnor said: chocoloco said: BenVTrigger said: Im not saying theres anything wrong with how people are acting or that anyone is being jerks. There are however a few people who have posted in this thread just listing a list of exclusives on PS3 being better looking. People who dont even own a 360 and will never play Halo 4 Sorry, Ben, but  the game is very weak in graphics quality. Especially when put against the gens best looking games. Not everyone is so in love with the series that they cannot see it is a pretty bad looking game by the standards of now. I think Borderlands 2 looks way better. So many games do. Digital Foundry says otherwise buddy. And technically, not aesthetically. Halo 4 is right at the top or fighting for the top best grapics this generation, regardless what you say. Its factual Halo 4 is technically impressive. Now opinion is I think it looks the best this generation. Your opinion will differ.  But saying Halo 4 is very weak graphics is just trolling. Its like me saying Uncharted 3 or GOW3 has weak graphics. Because Halo 4 IS that amazing graphically. I am not the only one by far that is saying it is not the best. Many people that own both consoles are saying this. I will not debate it because it is stupid. I came to give my view. Your view sees anything MS through rose tinted glasses. I do not trust your opinions on anything concerning gaming. Ben is at least a little less ultra biased, not you.

Stay strong dude. You're not the only one with that mindset towards Sel. Guys infamous for some very high questionable "best graphic" choices over the years.

selnor said: chocoloco said: selnor said: chocoloco said: BenVTrigger said: Im not saying theres anything wrong with how people are acting or that anyone is being jerks. There are however a few people who have posted in this thread just listing a list of exclusives on PS3 being better looking. People who dont even own a 360 and will never play Halo 4 Sorry, Ben, but  the game is very weak in graphics quality. Especially when put against the gens best looking games. Not everyone is so in love with the series that they cannot see it is a pretty bad looking game by the standards of now. I think Borderlands 2 looks way better. So many games do. Digital Foundry says otherwise buddy. And technically, not aesthetically. Halo 4 is right at the top or fighting for the top best grapics this generation, regardless what you say. Its factual Halo 4 is technically impressive. Now opinion is I think it looks the best this generation. Your opinion will differ.  But saying Halo 4 is very weak graphics is just trolling. Its like me saying Uncharted 3 or GOW3 has weak graphics. Because Halo 4 IS that amazing graphically. I am not the only one by far that is saying it is not the best. Many people that own both consoles are saying this. I will not debate it because it is stupid. I came to give my view. Your view sees anything MS through rose tinted glasses. I do not trust your opinions on anything concerning gaming. Ben is at least a little less ultra biased, not you. No many who are known to favor a certain console are disagreeing. Even calling it weak or saying not even best on 360. The game looks so good that its easy for anyone that has actually experienced Halo 4's grapics firsthand to call these as fanboys comments.  Saying not sure if its beats x game but its astounding nonetheless I can understand. But not the pure troll comments. Many on VGC that truly own both consoles and are pretty good at posting have said Halo 4 is either the best or up there. Looking back to thread the majority of double owners actually side with DF.

Lol, go ask Trasharmdister, yo_john, hollabackkenny, and yo_john's brother Halo condom if my name is PassionOfGandhi on the the 360. Also, ask them what my gamerscore is .

the best looking game this gen is Kyrbis epic yarn
the best tech....thats another story

Aldro said: Argh_College said: Aldro said: BenVTrigger said: But it is one of the best looking games of the generation..... Thats universal agreement across all of gaming media.....every review has mentioned it is easily among the very best even the low review scores said it was gorgeous. Thats not even up for debate lol the only debate is its number in the top 3-5 games of the generation "every review has mentioned it is easily among the very best " Are you deliberately trying to lie? I recall you mentioning Destructoid and they, giving it a 10, said something like the best or possibly best on the 360 and thats that. CGI stands correct on not many claiming to be THE very best on consoles alltogether. If you want to see that, go look up some UC3 reviews. Theyre very full of them.   And if you think im full of shit: I'd even be up for making a collection if you stand for the Halo 4 side and Ill handle the UC3 one. Yes, I am that into critics opinion and have far too much time on my hand. I am not disputing it being top 5-10. But THE best is pushing it.   Wont even try to reason with Selnor. Like someone said previously: If fighting on a massive titan in Tartarus isnt scale and scenary.. Oh boy. Digital Foundry vs Uc3 didnt mention anything has best graphics ever.  Neither for Gears of War 3 or Forza MotorSport 4.  God of War 3 i didnt reat but that game blew my mind, the beginning is out of this world, what a masterpiece. digitalfoundry vs uc3: "And it is - quite clearly - one of the most beautiful video games of its age. Where Uncharted 3 is peerless and unparalleled is in its ability to defy the technological constraints of current-generation platforms, which raises an interesting question about whether ideas are the real premium now over and above the technological arms race that has powered current-gen console game development." BOOM!

What I love is this old posting. Where people say yeah but like last year DF said UC3 best yeah. 

That was last year. Other games have come out since then.

I also love the way people completely bypass the final verdict of DF Halo 4.

In an era where the likes of Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica have defined the graphical state-of-the-art with Uncharted and God of War, Xbox 360 finally has its own shot at the title - and it's a genuinely worthwhile, lavish and occasionally even breathtaking experience.

So yes maybe once upon a time Sony ad that spot secure. But alas 343i are now on the scene. And have proved the PS3 power myth was bollocks. Now we KNOW it was just development aimed at visuals for Sony early on. Whic benefited 3 or 4 studios for Sony.  

chocoloco said: selnor said: chocoloco said: selnor said: chocoloco said: BenVTrigger said: Im not saying theres anything wrong with how people are acting or that anyone is being jerks. There are however a few people who have posted in this thread just listing a list of exclusives on PS3 being better looking. People who dont even own a 360 and will never play Halo 4 Sorry, Ben, but  the game is very weak in graphics quality. Especially when put against the gens best looking games. Not everyone is so in love with the series that they cannot see it is a pretty bad looking game by the standards of now. I think Borderlands 2 looks way better. So many games do. Digital Foundry says otherwise buddy. And technically, not aesthetically. Halo 4 is right at the top or fighting for the top best grapics this generation, regardless what you say. Its factual Halo 4 is technically impressive. Now opinion is I think it looks the best this generation. Your opinion will differ.  But saying Halo 4 is very weak graphics is just trolling. Its like me saying Uncharted 3 or GOW3 has weak graphics. Because Halo 4 IS that amazing graphically. I am not the only one by far that is saying it is not the best. Many people that own both consoles are saying this. I will not debate it because it is stupid. I came to give my view. Your view sees anything MS through rose tinted glasses. I do not trust your opinions on anything concerning gaming. Ben is at least a little less ultra biased, not you. No many who are known to favor a certain console are disagreeing. Even calling it weak or saying not even best on 360. The game looks so good that its easy for anyone that has actually experienced Halo 4's grapics firsthand to call these as fanboys comments.  Saying not sure if its beats x game but its astounding nonetheless I can understand. But not the pure troll comments. Many on VGC that truly own both consoles and are pretty good at posting have said Halo 4 is either the best or up there. Looking back to thread the majority of double owners actually side with DF. Lol, go ask Trasharmdister, yo_john, hollabackkenny, and yo_john's brother Halo condom if my name is PassionOfGandhi on the the 360. Also, ask them what my gamerscore is .

What has that got to do with trolling a thread? 

Why would I need to ask someone your gamertag? What to message you to say your trolling?

I wouldnt expect you to admit anything.

But its ok. We all know Halo 4 does not have and I quote your words

" weak graphics "

ROFL.

selnor said: Aldro said: Argh_College said: Aldro said: BenVTrigger said: But it is one of the best looking games of the generation..... Thats universal agreement across all of gaming media.....every review has mentioned it is easily among the very best even the low review scores said it was gorgeous. Thats not even up for debate lol the only debate is its number in the top 3-5 games of the generation "every review has mentioned it is easily among the very best " Are you deliberately trying to lie? I recall you mentioning Destructoid and they, giving it a 10, said something like the best or possibly best on the 360 and thats that. CGI stands correct on not many claiming to be THE very best on consoles alltogether. If you want to see that, go look up some UC3 reviews. Theyre very full of them.   And if you think im full of shit: I'd even be up for making a collection if you stand for the Halo 4 side and Ill handle the UC3 one. Yes, I am that into critics opinion and have far too much time on my hand. I am not disputing it being top 5-10. But THE best is pushing it.   Wont even try to reason with Selnor. Like someone said previously: If fighting on a massive titan in Tartarus isnt scale and scenary.. Oh boy. Digital Foundry vs Uc3 didnt mention anything has best graphics ever.  Neither for Gears of War 3 or Forza MotorSport 4.  God of War 3 i didnt reat but that game blew my mind, the beginning is out of this world, what a masterpiece. digitalfoundry vs uc3: "And it is - quite clearly - one of the most beautiful video games of its age. Where Uncharted 3 is peerless and unparalleled is in its ability to defy the technological constraints of current-generation platforms, which raises an interesting question about whether ideas are the real premium now over and above the technological arms race that has powered current-gen console game development." BOOM! What I love is this old posting. Where people say yeah but like last year DF said UC3 best yeah.  That was last year. Other games have come out since then. I also love the way people completely bypass the final verdict of DF Halo 4. In an era where the likes of Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica have defined the graphical state-of-the-art with Uncharted and God of War, Xbox 360 finally has its own shot at the title - and it's a genuinely worthwhile, lavish and occasionally even breathtaking experience. So yes maybe once upon a time Sony ad that spot secure. But alas 343i are now on the scene. And have proved the PS3 power myth was bollocks. Now we KNOW it was just development aimed at visuals for Sony early on. Whic benefited 3 or 4 studios for Sony.

My friend, the gen is ending. DF says NOW MS has a shot. A SHOT! They got a shot when TLOU, God of War Ascension and Beyond is just around the corner. Clearly you dont even feel Gears had a shot seeming as you react thecway you do now. The fact that the reaction is not that of UC3s or GoW3 or UC2 in their respective years but just mentioned as a shot is laughable. Even DF states clearly that ND & SSM practically set the standard! Now they both have games next year while you somehow feel happy that 343 caught up to their 1-2 year old title with the greatest money in MS' history to support them. I think the game looks remarkable but not in the top three for me VISUALLY. Technically, aesthetically maybe! But pure visually as it is more open -> it cant compete, hence why I find Gears 3 even better looking thus why I feel the "SHOT" has already been reached with that. Jesus.

Aldro your getting a bit fired up at me for no reason.

I didnt say UC3 isnt the graphics king. I said IMO it isnt but is still in the top 3. As Ive said the top 5 consolx3 games are all beautiful and are so close itll come down to personal preference.

And yes reviews DO say its one of the best looking games this gen. They pretty much all say its the best on 360 which is enought to put it in the top 5. Or do you realky believe theres more than 5 games on PS3 that are better than anything on Xbox. Because I assure you there isnt. UC3, KZ3, GOW, and Halo 4 are the best looking games this gen

Aldro said: selnor said: Aldro said: Argh_College said: Aldro said: BenVTrigger said: But it is one of the best looking games of the generation..... Thats universal agreement across all of gaming media.....every review has mentioned it is easily among the very best even the low review scores said it was gorgeous. Thats not even up for debate lol the only debate is its number in the top 3-5 games of the generation "every review has mentioned it is easily among the very best " Are you deliberately trying to lie? I recall you mentioning Destructoid and they, giving it a 10, said something like the best or possibly best on the 360 and thats that. CGI stands correct on not many claiming to be THE very best on consoles alltogether. If you want to see that, go look up some UC3 reviews. Theyre very full of them.   And if you think im full of shit: I'd even be up for making a collection if you stand for the Halo 4 side and Ill handle the UC3 one. Yes, I am that into critics opinion and have far too much time on my hand. I am not disputing it being top 5-10. But THE best is pushing it.   Wont even try to reason with Selnor. Like someone said previously: If fighting on a massive titan in Tartarus isnt scale and scenary.. Oh boy. Digital Foundry vs Uc3 didnt mention anything has best graphics ever.  Neither for Gears of War 3 or Forza MotorSport 4.  God of War 3 i didnt reat but that game blew my mind, the beginning is out of this world, what a masterpiece. digitalfoundry vs uc3: "And it is - quite clearly - one of the most beautiful video games of its age. Where Uncharted 3 is peerless and unparalleled is in its ability to defy the technological constraints of current-generation platforms, which raises an interesting question about whether ideas are the real premium now over and above the technological arms race that has powered current-gen console game development." BOOM! What I love is this old posting. Where people say yeah but like last year DF said UC3 best yeah.  That was last year. Other games have come out since then. I also love the way people completely bypass the final verdict of DF Halo 4. In an era where the likes of Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica have defined the graphical state-of-the-art with Uncharted and God of War, Xbox 360 finally has its own shot at the title - and it's a genuinely worthwhile, lavish and occasionally even breathtaking experience. So yes maybe once upon a time Sony ad that spot secure. But alas 343i are now on the scene. And have proved the PS3 power myth was bollocks. Now we KNOW it was just development aimed at visuals for Sony early on. Whic benefited 3 or 4 studios for Sony.   My friend, the gen is ending. DF says NOW MS has a shot. A SHOT! They got a shot when TLOU, God of War Ascension and Beyond is just around the corner. Clearly you dont even feel Gears had a shot seeming as you react thecway you do now. The fact that the reaction is not that of UC3s or GoW3 or UC2 in their respective years but just mentioned as a shot is laughable. Even DF states clearly that ND & SSM practically set the standard! Now they both have games next year while you somehow feel happy that 343 caught up to their 1-2 year old title with the greatest money in MS' history to support them. I think the game looks remarkable but not in the top three for me VISUALLY. Technically, aesthetically maybe! But pure visually as it is more open -> it cant compete, hence why I find Gears 3 even better looking thus why I feel the "SHOT" has already been reached with that. Jesus.

Its like you have missed this generation altogether.

343i first project. First. Microsofts first attempt at building a game for 360 ground up for amazing production. 

Microsoft on their first attempt have done this visually. It is a shame after 7 years it took for Microsoft to put a team together who had the funds and the talent to work the 360. 

And no Gears lost out to Forza 4. Gears 3 looks amazing for a 3rd party engine. As does Crysis 1 and 2 on console. 

Funny thing is, its more open yet maintains a high visual fidelity. Unheard of in this generation. Here another exerpt from Digital Foundry. Please tell me 343i are not geniuses in having this fidelity but twice the siz of most games.

Technologically speaking, Halo 4 doesn't put a foot wrong throughout the entire eight to nine hour campaign. The enhancements to modelling, lighting and environments are beautiful and play host to some of the most epic gunplay we've experienced on a home console title. Perhaps this is not surprising bearing in mind that the 343i tech team had the know-how and the time to push the 360 hardware further and harder than any other developer we're aware of. Factor in how key 343i staff contributed to the development of DirectX 11 (and almost certainly, the genesis of the next-gen Xbox) and we have some idea of the spectrum of talent Microsoft put to work here.

Combine that with the expert design direction and the groundbreaking technology and we have a game that genuinely impresses with the sheer magnificence of some its scenes.

 

You call it a shot after 7 years. I call it unbelieveable on first attempt. And the fact that its true rival Killzone 3 isnt even mentioned in the last paragraph definately means that genre for genre 360 is winning slowly.

Horizon best visuals in any racing game on console. Now Halo 4 FPS at least.

zero129 said: CGI-Quality said: teigaga said: Now I think of it, I don't think I've seen any PC games which I would say look as good.  Let's not go that far, or you will invite many PC folks to post screenshots / footage that will troll this place. ;) In truth, Halo 4 is probably the best looking FPS on console(s), as well as best looking 360 title, but definitely not ahead of top PC titles. Aesthetics or otherwise. Bolded and well pretty much the whole post i agree with. Halo 4 looks great on consoles (Remember im a big Halo fanboy) but it cant be compared to the PC big boyz (Also PC fanboy)

Agree. Some of the amazing visuals I see CGI posting for his PC games is on another level. 

Halo 4 is pretty darn impressive for consoles though. I loved the bit where you break into battle on foot with the cliff edge. And right at the cliff edge is the huge Infinity UNSC cruiser just sitting there. What an Epic battle. You cant even see te end of the cruiser its that big.