Aldro said: BenVTrigger said: But it is one of the best looking games of the generation..... Thats universal agreement across all of gaming media.....every review has mentioned it is easily among the very best even the low review scores said it was gorgeous. Thats not even up for debate lol the only debate is its number in the top 3-5 games of the generation "every review has mentioned it is easily among the very best " Are you deliberately trying to lie? I recall you mentioning Destructoid and they, giving it a 10, said something like the best or possibly best on the 360 and thats that. CGI stands correct on not many claiming to be THE very best on consoles alltogether. If you want to see that, go look up some UC3 reviews. Theyre very full of them.   And if you think im full of shit: I'd even be up for making a collection if you stand for the Halo 4 side and Ill handle the UC3 one. Yes, I am that into critics opinion and have far too much time on my hand. I am not disputing it being top 5-10. But THE best is pushing it.   Wont even try to reason with Selnor. Like someone said previously: If fighting on a massive titan in Tartarus isnt scale and scenary.. Oh boy.

It was a valid statment, we're talking about critical analysis here not "fighting on a massive titan". That quote alone says you got sucked in and didn't pay attention to the real scene. god of war looks amazing no question, but it does so at the price of having a fully fledged lanscape, all the detail is in the characters. That's not really arguable from where I'm standing.

Halo 4 does everything well, maybe not to the level of god of war on a case by case basis, but god of war does one thing amazing, Halo 4 does everything extremely well.

It's unfair to say one is worse than the other, but don't kid yourself. Same goes for Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2. What they do, they do well. What they don't do well, you just didn't notice. Which is actually a testiment to their quality but you are talking like they did it all well or don't have an insight into technical stuff like this.

Agree with the OP, by far the best looking game Iv played on my 360.
It's a great game overall, and I believe I'm one of the few who actually really enjoyed the campaign :)

TomNinetyTwo said: Agree with the OP, by far the best looking game Iv played on my 360. It's a great game overall, and I believe I'm one of the few who actually really enjoyed the campaign :)

You're not the only one. It's the best Halo campaign yet and since Halo always have incredible campaigns that puts it up in the running for best campaign ever. Oh and yeah, it looks amazing too.

Been playing the campaign more and I will say the textures look good up close. Well, at long or medium distance they are really plain. I stand by my statement that the PS3 graphics kings look better overall. And, yes I play almost every exclusive for PS3 and 360.

I was pretty blown away at first - it's creepily good - then I realize 'cut scene.' lol Still it looks great from what I have seen so far.

I am really amazed what they can get out of the 7 year old console. It was really ahead of it's time. Bravo to all those engineers and artist that pushed it so much. It looks like a different generation from the original launch to me.

I'm just at the beginning - but realize if I don't stop playing, I'll never go back and finish Halo Anniversary.

Aldro said: BenVTrigger said: But it is one of the best looking games of the generation..... Thats universal agreement across all of gaming media.....every review has mentioned it is easily among the very best even the low review scores said it was gorgeous. Thats not even up for debate lol the only debate is its number in the top 3-5 games of the generation "every review has mentioned it is easily among the very best " Are you deliberately trying to lie? I recall you mentioning Destructoid and they, giving it a 10, said something like the best or possibly best on the 360 and thats that. CGI stands correct on not many claiming to be THE very best on consoles alltogether. If you want to see that, go look up some UC3 reviews. Theyre very full of them.   And if you think im full of shit: I'd even be up for making a collection if you stand for the Halo 4 side and Ill handle the UC3 one. Yes, I am that into critics opinion and have far too much time on my hand. I am not disputing it being top 5-10. But THE best is pushing it.   Wont even try to reason with Selnor. Like someone said previously: If fighting on a massive titan in Tartarus isnt scale and scenary.. Oh boy.

Digital Foundry vs Uc3 didnt mention anything has best graphics ever. 

Neither for Gears of War 3 or Forza MotorSport 4. 

God of War 3 i didnt reat but that game blew my mind, the beginning is out of this world, what a masterpiece.

torok said: selnor said: Aldro said: selnor said: Aldro said: selnor said: LOL. I agree. Its something beautiful. DF had this to say. " In an era where the likes of Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica have defined the graphical state-of-the-art with Uncharted and God of War, Xbox 360 finally has its own shot at the title - and it's a genuinely worthwhile, lavish and occasionally even breathtaking experience." So even technically its up there with a genuine shout. Genuinely noone can knock anyone down for saying Halo 4 best visuals. It has every right to have that label or at least fight for it. To me its lighting is truly unmatched even by the late Forza Horizon. Everything is Epic, well textured and filled with detail. Awesome. DF also said = "Remember that feeling you had when playing the first 20 minutes of God of War 3 for the first time? The sensation that the developers had somehow extracted next-gen visuals from current gen hardware? While Halo 4 doesn't quite engender that feeling of hushed awe, it gets very, very close"   So yeah. Not "quite" there! Your misusing the words. It doesnt mean its not quite there against GOW3 ( which cannot compete with Halo 4 lighting and scale. )  They are refferring very clearly to te first time you saw GOW3 first 20 mins. Things ave moved on since then. We are used to high lighting and seamless visuals now. But even in todays graphical environment Halo 4 still nearly manages that same feeling of 2009. If anything that comment is showing halo 4 is there and then some. It doesnt mean its not quite to GOW3 LOL. altough GOW3 is my fave graphics on PS3 over Uncharted and Killzone.  GoW3 released in 2010... Have you really played GoW3? Because GoW3 not being able to compete in scale is a RIDICILOUS statement. Yes I have LOL. I know your refferring to the big battles. To be honest the character models on the bosses are amazing. But everything around it ( or usually when they appear there is nothing else in frame ) looks basic. Its not scale in the sense of oter games. Although big, it never feels big. Mostly due to the scenery being non existant and the controls being linear on movements.   The sheer scale of the landscapes in Halo 4 is not matced by anything in GOW3. Add to that actually. Nothing in GOW3 remotely comes close to the scale of that massive Forerunner interior part. Mission 3 I think. THAT is scale. Then you battle on it. Its funny because COD or Killzone for example have these so called big ticket moments in them. Scripted or explosions. Halo 4 rips those big ticket moments up 10 or more times throughout the campaign and rewrites just what scale is for games. Previous Halos are also dwarfed. If a 1600 ft boss isn't scale, I don't know what it is anymore. And a giant animated character model, with physics, animation, interaction and a lot of enemies over it is more complex than landscapes.

Nothing in GOW3 has physics or great animation in context of the character bosses. 80% of it you dont control. Its just QTES and fixed camera. Epic scale is more than just about size. Its about being right in the middle of something, being able to view it how you want with 100% full control. To be running and gunning for example whilst rigt in front of you sits a 3,000 foot spacecraft that spans the entire sky. Being able to fully control the camera in all its awe. Thats epic scale.  Its difficult to feel epic in scale when its a fixed or controlled camera spinning around when you get the button presses right. To be onest when you think about it. Halo 4 or Uncharted are much more impressive. But alas GOW3 looks better than UC imo. 

chocoloco said: BenVTrigger said: Im not saying theres anything wrong with how people are acting or that anyone is being jerks. There are however a few people who have posted in this thread just listing a list of exclusives on PS3 being better looking. People who dont even own a 360 and will never play Halo 4 Sorry, Ben, but  the game is very weak in graphics quality. Especially when put against the gens best looking games. Not everyone is so in love with the series that they cannot see it is a pretty bad looking game by the standards of now. I think Borderlands 2 looks way better. So many games do.

Digital Foundry says otherwise buddy. And technically, not aesthetically. Halo 4 is right at the top or fighting for the top best grapics this generation, regardless what you say. Its factual Halo 4 is technically impressive.

Now opinion is I think it looks the best this generation. Your opinion will differ. 

But saying Halo 4 is very weak graphics is just trolling. Its like me saying Uncharted 3 or GOW3 has weak graphics. Because Halo 4 IS that amazing graphically.

selnor said: chocoloco said: BenVTrigger said: Im not saying theres anything wrong with how people are acting or that anyone is being jerks. There are however a few people who have posted in this thread just listing a list of exclusives on PS3 being better looking. People who dont even own a 360 and will never play Halo 4 Sorry, Ben, but  the game is very weak in graphics quality. Especially when put against the gens best looking games. Not everyone is so in love with the series that they cannot see it is a pretty bad looking game by the standards of now. I think Borderlands 2 looks way better. So many games do. Digital Foundry says otherwise buddy. And technically, not aesthetically. Halo 4 is right at the top or fighting for the top best grapics this generation, regardless what you say. Its factual Halo 4 is technically impressive. Now opinion is I think it looks the best this generation. Your opinion will differ.  But saying Halo 4 is very weak graphics is just trolling. Its like me saying Uncharted 3 or GOW3 has weak graphics. Because Halo 4 IS that amazing graphically.

I am not the only one by far that is saying it is not the best. Many people that own both consoles are saying this. I will not debate it because it is stupid. I came to give my view. Your view sees anything MS through rose tinted glasses. I do not trust your opinions on anything concerning gaming. Ben is at least a little less ultra biased, not you.

Argh_College said: Aldro said: BenVTrigger said: But it is one of the best looking games of the generation..... Thats universal agreement across all of gaming media.....every review has mentioned it is easily among the very best even the low review scores said it was gorgeous. Thats not even up for debate lol the only debate is its number in the top 3-5 games of the generation "every review has mentioned it is easily among the very best " Are you deliberately trying to lie? I recall you mentioning Destructoid and they, giving it a 10, said something like the best or possibly best on the 360 and thats that. CGI stands correct on not many claiming to be THE very best on consoles alltogether. If you want to see that, go look up some UC3 reviews. Theyre very full of them.   And if you think im full of shit: I'd even be up for making a collection if you stand for the Halo 4 side and Ill handle the UC3 one. Yes, I am that into critics opinion and have far too much time on my hand. I am not disputing it being top 5-10. But THE best is pushing it.   Wont even try to reason with Selnor. Like someone said previously: If fighting on a massive titan in Tartarus isnt scale and scenary.. Oh boy. Digital Foundry vs Uc3 didnt mention anything has best graphics ever.  Neither for Gears of War 3 or Forza MotorSport 4.  God of War 3 i didnt reat but that game blew my mind, the beginning is out of this world, what a masterpiece.

digitalfoundry vs uc3: "And it is - quite clearly - one of the most beautiful video games of its age. Where Uncharted 3 is peerless and unparalleled is in its ability to defy the technological constraints of current-generation platforms, which raises an interesting question about whether ideas are the real premium now over and above the technological arms race that has powered current-gen console game development." BOOM!