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Crono141 on 31 October 2012
darkknightkryta said:
Crono141 said:
darkknightkryta said:
Crono141 said:
darkknightkryta said:
Porcupine_I said:
Please please Disney, start exploiting the franchise with bluray releases of the original theatrical versions

You should actually read up on how they made the special editions back in 96.  They don't actually have the 0-negatives anymore, not the ones he made anyways.  They'd have to go hunt down some first gen copy, if any are lying around in good condition.

What are you talking about?  The special editions already did all of the work in restoring the OT.  They just also added in all the crappy "special" material.  You don't think they still have the remastered originals without special edition additions lying on a hard drive somewhere?

They don't.  Lucas actually cut up the 0-negatives and spliced in the special effect shots into the film reel.  It's the reason why the DVD release used the laser disc footage as that was the last time they made a copy from the 0-negatives before someone didn't seal them properly.  They managed to restore most of the negatives, yes, but they cut and replaced part of it with the new special edition footage.  So technically the original technically doesn't exist anymore.

This sounds incredibly unlikely given Lucas's obsession with digital effects even back then.  Did they really make the bonehead decision of destroying the original work when digitizing it would have been the better solution?

It's all here: http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/savingstarwars.html

Though I might have been wrong about the laser disc.  Good read, they actually had to colour time using a technicolor copy that Lucas had stored in his basement.

According to that, there was a theatrical copy made back in 1985 from the original negatives.  Perhaps a copy of that can be sought out and a restoration performed on it for OT blu rays.  They'd sell like hot cakes.  I'd buy one, and I own no less than 4 copies of the original trilogy. (Original VHS, Special edition VHS, Special edition DVD, Special Edition DVD with included OT laserdisc copies on DVD)

Edit:  Also this: "It would have been far too cost prohibitive to scan and digitally restore the entire film at that time, so only the shots that were going to be enhanced with digital effects ended up in the computer."

So, theoretically, they can use the "remastered" film from the special edition that doesn't contain any special scenes, and splice back in the digitally altered film without the digital alterations.



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DanneSandin on 31 October 2012
pezus said:
DanneSandin said:
man-bear-pig said:
DanneSandin said:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FUCK NO! NO FUCKING EPISODE 7!!!!!

FUUUUUUCK


That's quite a bizarre reaction...why?

The whole story of Star Wars (the 2 core trilogies (hexalogy??)) is about Darth Vader/Anakin. The story revolves around him - in one way or another. And making a new trilogy (7-9) couldn't possibly feature him, unless it's a clone and that would suck monkeyballs.

Make some pre-prequals!! Use the whole Universe that BioWare have created...

Star Wars is SO much more than that though. They could easily make more great movies, if they get the right people on board

Yes, it is - but don't call it episode 7 - as if it has anything to do with the other movies; cuz it don't. Anakin died, and if you think about it, it's his story we've been following through the whole series. Call the 7th Movie for something else. "Star Wars: Jar Jar Binks daytrippin'" "Star Wars The RUle of Thrawn" "Star Wars Han and Leia's kids" - whatevz, but do not call it episode 7. that story arc is over.



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DanneSandin on 31 October 2012
superchunk said:
Metrium said:
In theory, this sounds awsome, but the more I think about it the more I start thinking that they will completly ruin the Star Wars franchise.

Episode 1-3 sucked, and I don't see how Disney could make them any better. Now a new trilogy, episode 7 means that this will be post-Darth Vader/Empire... No obi-wan, no Annakin, no palpatine and more importantly NO YODA! (unless they make him a ghost or something, wich would be even worst). This means only 2 options, creat a bunch of new character and new threats to the republic, or continue on Luke, Han-Solo and Lela's story and I never cared about any of these characters.


episodes 1-3 did NOT 'suck'. Only a hypersensitive old school SW fan thinks that.

1: was good overall, but had a two very bad characters and bad acting (jarjar and young anakin)
2: was very good overall but suffered from bad acting and older Anakin (aka cry baby) and huge plot holes
3: wasn't great and suffered from bad acting, forced story telling and and old Anakin

Only negative that relates to Episodes 1-3 is how Lucas used them to change a few plots and scenes in Episodes 4-6 totally dropped the ball and made them suck.

Lucas did not ruin your childhood, I promise - he just raped it, like he raped poor Indy later.

There is a lot of story. Its a big universe and it doesn't need the classic characters to be good.

Man, you're really delusional... I fixed some of you're statements



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Crono141 on 31 October 2012

DanneSandin, I agree with your assessment of the prequel trilogy, but disagree with your opinion on Ep 7-9. I knew as far back as 1995 that there were 9 stories planned for Star Wars movies, and that we started on episode 4. The first question that came to my mind on hearing about the prequel trilogy happening was "what about the other 3?"

Star Wars only seems like its a story about Anakin because that's the only parts of the story we've been shown. But the fact is there's another 1/3rd of the story we haven't been exposed to yet.



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superchunk on 31 October 2012
wfz said:
c03n3nj0 said:
0___o


Star Wars rides at Disney World!! WooooooOOOOooooo!


There already has been one for quite a number of years! ... It's a reall lame virtual reality starship tour... :P


ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

Star Tours is baddass fun. With the new upgrades (at Disneyland), there is even multiple scenarios that get played out. Star Tours is a great ride and constantly has long lines. (above average for DLand)



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mike_intellivision on 31 October 2012

People seem to forget that there have been reports since the days of the original trilogy that there were THREE sets of movies planned. A 1983 book even quotes Lucas discussing that, though he later denied plans for more than six movies.

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/10/31/disney-realize-vision-9-star-wars-episodes.html

I can tell you having lived through the time of the original trilogy that the buzz was that this was a nine movie set (not a six movie set)

Hopefully, these films will work to move the story -- not just reboot the franchise.

Mike from Morgantown



      


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superchunk on 31 October 2012
DanneSandin said:
superchunk said:
Metrium said:
In theory, this sounds awsome, but the more I think about it the more I start thinking that they will completly ruin the Star Wars franchise.

Episode 1-3 sucked, and I don't see how Disney could make them any better. Now a new trilogy, episode 7 means that this will be post-Darth Vader/Empire... No obi-wan, no Annakin, no palpatine and more importantly NO YODA! (unless they make him a ghost or something, wich would be even worst). This means only 2 options, creat a bunch of new character and new threats to the republic, or continue on Luke, Han-Solo and Lela's story and I never cared about any of these characters.


episodes 1-3 did NOT 'suck'. Only a hypersensitive old school SW fan thinks that.

1: was good overall, but had a two very bad characters and bad acting (jarjar and young anakin)
2: was very good overall but suffered from bad acting and older Anakin (aka cry baby) and huge plot holes
3: wasn't great and suffered from bad acting, forced story telling and and old Anakin

Only negative that relates to Episodes 1-3 is how Lucas used them to change a few plots and scenes in Episodes 4-6 totally dropped the ball and made them suck.

Lucas did not ruin your childhood, I promise - he just raped it, like he raped poor Indy later.

There is a lot of story. Its a big universe and it doesn't need the classic characters to be good.

Man, you're really delusional... I fixed some of you're statements

Bad acting... you complain about bad acting in a SW movie? wtf, have you not watched the others? Delusional, I am not the one.



Crono141 on 31 October 2012

There is bad acting in A New Hope. But I chalk this largely up to bad directing (Lucas). Everything bad about A New Hope is even worse in the prequels.



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Crono141 on 31 October 2012
mike_intellivision said:
People seem to forget that there have been reports since the days of the original trilogy that there were THREE sets of movies planned. A 1983 book even quotes Lucas discussing that, though he later denied plans for more than six movies.

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/10/31/disney-realize-vision-9-star-wars-episodes.html

I can tell you having lived through the time of the original trilogy that the buzz was that this was a nine movie set (not a six movie set)

Hopefully, these films will work to move the story -- not just reboot the franchise.

Mike from Morgantown


Man, George Lucas is a serial liar. "No, I never intended to make 9.  It was always 6".  "Han was supposed to shoot first." "I originally intended starwars to be really bad fantasy for 8 year olds."



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wfz on 31 October 2012
superchunk said:
wfz said:
c03n3nj0 said:
0___o


Star Wars rides at Disney World!! WooooooOOOOooooo!


There already has been one for quite a number of years! ... It's a reall lame virtual reality starship tour... :P


ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

Star Tours is baddass fun. With the new upgrades (at Disneyland), there is even multiple scenarios that get played out. Star Tours is a great ride and constantly has long lines. (above average for DLand)

Yes, I know exactly what it is. I've been on the new rendition twice. It's super boring. You just sit there and your seat shakes a little while you watch a TV screen showing a ship fly through a few different planets.

That's not a ride, it's a short CGI clip while sitting in a massage chair! And the massage isn't very great. :(