JazzyJeez said:
Adinnieken said:
To put the British of the period into perspective. During the War of 1812, the British won every major decisive battle except one and that didn't wasn't won until after the treaty was signed. They routed the US Government, ransacked and burned the capital, and still ended up capitulating and lost the war.
Heck, the whole reason why Patton wanted to get to Berlin before the British was so that Montgomery wouldn't surrender to the Germans.
Note: I know the difference between the 1770's and the 1810's, but it was still King George. Up until the American Revolutionaries, no military power great or small had ever defeated the British on it's own territory, which technically the American colonies were.
The only other people were to deal the British any significant blows were the two other superpowers of the time, the French and Spanish, and then the Germans in WWII at Dunkirk. The odd thing is the British consider Dunkirk a highlight of WWII. Nothing more uplifting than retreating with 50,000 soldiers either captured or killed. |
It's always good to read a persons opinion especially when the majority of historians have a different one.
Of course your completely correct about the reason why Patton wanted to capture Berlin before Montgomery when the evidence is that Patton actually agreed with Churchill that Montgomery should attempt the capture of Berlin, but don't let historical facts get in the way of your tripe.
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Actually that was a complete joke. Your failure to grasp that is sad. I hope you're not British, because y'all are supposed to be known for your skill with dry sarcastic humor.
Patton did want to capture Berlin first, by any means necessary because he felt the Russian's were going to be a greater threat in the long-term. History proved him correct. Patton wanted to be the one who entered Berlin, but at the time his forces were meeting resistance. Montgomery's were not, therefore they could have advanced quicker.
Regardless, both Patton and by extension Churchill were out voted. It was Eisenhower, who Patton accused of being too political, that made the ultimate decision to allow the Russians to capture and hold eastern Germany and Berlin. Rather than look at the bigger picture and potentially extend the conflict, Eisenhower chose to abide by the concessions made in the Yalta Conference and allow the Russians the opportunity to capture and hold Berlin as well as eastern Germany.
Next time you try to school someone, try to actually have some understanding of what actually happened at that moment in time, rather than copying and pasting a sentence word-for-word from Wikipedia and calling what someone else writes "tripe". Reading Wiki for an answer is awesome, but you really should rely on sources that can offer you a much better perspective on complex individuals such as Patton. I don't know...like his biography. Being able to read something online and understanding the purpose or meaning behind it are two different things.
And try to use proper grammar while you're at it. It's "you're" not "your". I can be "completely correct", ergo "you're", but I can't possess it, ergo "your."
