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homer said:
So let me get this straight, of all the high quality games out for wiiu release, people actually are considering picking up this turd? At least get Arkham City. This game is proven to be low quality and I doubt 8 months will make it much better.


- includes dismemberment
- this leaves enemies crippled and open to instant-kills called Obliteration Techniques.
- these dismembered enemies will try to sacrifice themselves by blowing up and taking you out with them
- obliterations are initiated with the heavy attack button near a crippled enemy
- Light attacks no longer initiate obliterations
- Steel-on-Bone has been re-implemented specifically as a grab-counter
- when enemies attempt to grab Ryu or Ayane, they will be surrounded by a red aura
- striking an enemy with a heavy attack when they’re glowing red will result in the steel-on-bone finisher
- Steel-on-bone attacks can still be chained from enemy to enemy
- Ryu’s recovery has been shortened greatly
- this makes it easier to cancel into a dodge or block
- enemies are more aggressive and some have access to new moves
- combat has been redesigned
- enemies have more stagger animations
- both playable characters now have a universal grab
- charge attacks are extremely fast
- the six weapons available to Ryu in Razor’s Edge are there right from the get-go
- these weapons are claws, scythe, dual katanas, staff, and one yet to be revealed weapon
- Karma functions as both the point/ranking system and currency
- collectible items have been reintroduced
- Golden Scarabs from the original Ninja Gaiden and Crystal Skulls from Ninja Gaiden 2 are strewn about each stage
- these can be collected for an instant Karma bonus
- use Karma currency to purchase upgrades for weapons and magic (Ninpo)
- you can also buy unique combat abilities and even in-game costumes
- “Cicada Surge” teleportation ability has been revamped
- “Four Rings” is a 360º shuriken attack that stuns enemies surrounding Ryu
- this move can be thrown into combos as well
- Ultimate Techniques can be used even when Ryu/Ayane’s weapons aren’t glowing red
- this is done by holding down and charging a heavy attack 
- Ultimate Techniques have two charge levels once again
- Ninpo is still earned through combat and can keep your Ninpo charge between encounters
- Bosses have life gauges now
- Ayane has her own missions, weapons, ability upgrades and costumes
- one mission takes place in Paris, France, 
- you'll be running errands for Mizuki McCloud and the Japanese Special Defense Forces
- weapons include a kodaichi (short katana) and explosive kunai from Sigma 2
- there are also Obliteration Techniques and steel-on-bone attacks
- Ayane's moves are quick but hard to chain due to their short range
- Ayane possesses her “Raging Mountain God” Ninpo as well
- this spell has three levels, with each one increasing its damage and range
- Ryu is transported to an ethereal mental arena when the “Grip” gets ahold
- when in this state, Ryu’s health will deplete rapidly
- the game will throw waves of enemies at you
- every enemy killed restores some of Ryu’s health
- there was less slowdown in the most current demo build when compared to the 360/PS3 release

Uh.. It would appear that 8 months has made it much better.  It makes it easier when you have facts supporting your opinion. ^



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TheShape31 said:
homer said:
So let me get this straight, of all the high quality games out for wiiu release, people actually are considering picking up this turd? At least get Arkham City. This game is proven to be low quality and I doubt 8 months will make it much better.


- includes dismemberment
- this leaves enemies crippled and open to instant-kills called Obliteration Techniques.
- these dismembered enemies will try to sacrifice themselves by blowing up and taking you out with them
- obliterations are initiated with the heavy attack button near a crippled enemy
- Light attacks no longer initiate obliterations
- Steel-on-Bone has been re-implemented specifically as a grab-counter
- when enemies attempt to grab Ryu or Ayane, they will be surrounded by a red aura
- striking an enemy with a heavy attack when they’re glowing red will result in the steel-on-bone finisher
- Steel-on-bone attacks can still be chained from enemy to enemy
- Ryu’s recovery has been shortened greatly
- this makes it easier to cancel into a dodge or block
- enemies are more aggressive and some have access to new moves
- combat has been redesigned
- enemies have more stagger animations
- both playable characters now have a universal grab
- charge attacks are extremely fast
- the six weapons available to Ryu in Razor’s Edge are there right from the get-go
- these weapons are claws, scythe, dual katanas, staff, and one yet to be revealed weapon
- Karma functions as both the point/ranking system and currency
- collectible items have been reintroduced
- Golden Scarabs from the original Ninja Gaiden and Crystal Skulls from Ninja Gaiden 2 are strewn about each stage
- these can be collected for an instant Karma bonus
- use Karma currency to purchase upgrades for weapons and magic (Ninpo)
- you can also buy unique combat abilities and even in-game costumes
- “Cicada Surge” teleportation ability has been revamped
- “Four Rings” is a 360º shuriken attack that stuns enemies surrounding Ryu
- this move can be thrown into combos as well
- Ultimate Techniques can be used even when Ryu/Ayane’s weapons aren’t glowing red
- this is done by holding down and charging a heavy attack 
- Ultimate Techniques have two charge levels once again
- Ninpo is still earned through combat and can keep your Ninpo charge between encounters
- Bosses have life gauges now
- Ayane has her own missions, weapons, ability upgrades and costumes
- one mission takes place in Paris, France, 
- you'll be running errands for Mizuki McCloud and the Japanese Special Defense Forces
- weapons include a kodaichi (short katana) and explosive kunai from Sigma 2
- there are also Obliteration Techniques and steel-on-bone attacks
- Ayane's moves are quick but hard to chain due to their short range
- Ayane possesses her “Raging Mountain God” Ninpo as well
- this spell has three levels, with each one increasing its damage and range
- Ryu is transported to an ethereal mental arena when the “Grip” gets ahold
- when in this state, Ryu’s health will deplete rapidly
- the game will throw waves of enemies at you
- every enemy killed restores some of Ryu’s health
- there was less slowdown in the most current demo build when compared to the 360/PS3 release

Uh.. It would appear that 8 months has made it much better.  It makes it easier when you have facts supporting your opinion. ^

This is a list of changes, some of them extremely minor, not necessarily improvements. I highly doubt that giving enemies more stagger animations will make this game functionally better.



I've been keeping an eye on this game. I may pick it up after all. I already have Arkham City for my 360. While I love the game, armored suits and the DLC I already have won't make me double dip.



Out of so many fantastic looking games, are we really going to hype this one?



JGarret said:
So, a 3/10 game is now a 6/10? :p


So, a NeoGAF comment is now a VGChartz comment?



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homer said:
So let me get this straight, of all the high quality games out for wiiu release, people actually are considering picking up this turd? At least get Arkham City. This game is proven to be low quality and I doubt 8 months will make it much better.


I already played B:AC with PhysX and DX11 effects with a 360 pad, I don't think I need to pick up the Wii U version, at all. Also did ME3 already at 60FPS and hated the ending so not touching that on Wii U either.



Heavenly_King said:
JGarret said:
So, a 3/10 game is now a 6/10? :p

Exactly my thoughts

"Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor’s Edge for Wii U just keeps getting less worst"

Fixed


"Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor’s Edge for Wii U just keeps getting less bad"

fixed, l2engrish



dahuman said:
homer said:
So let me get this straight, of all the high quality games out for wiiu release, people actually are considering picking up this turd? At least get Arkham City. This game is proven to be low quality and I doubt 8 months will make it much better.


I already played B:AC with PhysX and DX11 effects with a 360 pad, I don't think I need to pick up the Wii U version, at all. Also did ME3 already at 60FPS and hated the ending so not touching that on Wii U either.


That's pretty much my situation. Well except I have AC and ME3 on 360. I may have bit on ME Trilogy for WiiU but EA decided to only port ME3.



It's strange though, I thought people's main complaint about the game was the game play, they have literally revamped those mechanics and made them much closer to what people envisioned a NG game to be, yet I've read at different places bitching about bad story which is a norm in all Ninja Gaiden games and some other map layout bullshit that just don't matter. It's almost like a lot of people are bitter about NG3 on Wii U would be better or something.



Darc Requiem said:
dahuman said:
homer said:
So let me get this straight, of all the high quality games out for wiiu release, people actually are considering picking up this turd? At least get Arkham City. This game is proven to be low quality and I doubt 8 months will make it much better.


I already played B:AC with PhysX and DX11 effects with a 360 pad, I don't think I need to pick up the Wii U version, at all. Also did ME3 already at 60FPS and hated the ending so not touching that on Wii U either.


That's pretty much my situation. Well except I have AC and ME3 on 360. I may have bit on ME Trilogy for WiiU but EA decided to only port ME3.


EA is also getting more retarded by the day so I'm not surprised they fucked over the Wii U that way, just think about much they fucked up DA2 and the new Medal of Honor. Their only saving grace is BF3 and I've already migrated over to Planetside 2.