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Answer the damn question!

Absolutely not. 150 53.38%
 
No, but the treatment of animals is wrong. 89 31.67%
 
Yes, but I'm still gonna eat meat. 16 5.69%
 
Yes, and I'm lowering my meat-intake 12 4.27%
 
Yes, and I don't eat meat. 14 4.98%
 
Total:281
Jay520 said:
brendude13 said:
The treatment of animals has to improve, the conditions some of them are kept in are just plain cruel. But eating meat is completely natural and healthy...not to mention tasty.


Natural? Maybe. Healthy? Sure. But is it right or wrong?


If it's both of those things, then you pretty much answered your own question Jay



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Player1x3 said:
Jay520 said:
brendude13 said:
The treatment of animals has to improve, the conditions some of them are kept in are just plain cruel. But eating meat is completely natural and healthy...not to mention tasty.


Natural? Maybe. Healthy? Sure. But is it right or wrong?


If it's both of those things, then you pretty much answered your own question Jay


It could  still be immoral.



I think about it from time to time. I usually try not to, it's easier that way x_x



@Everyone who says they care about how animals are treated before they're slaughtered, why is that?

If you're gonna kill animals for food, then you obviously have some sort of rationalization for why you believe it isn't wrong/immoral. Maybe you believe their lives are less valuable, that they have no consciousnesses, that it's natural, or that you are entitled to it from God. Why the sudden moral dilemma on how the animals are treated when you don't care that they're being slaughtered for your 'enjoyment' in the first place?



JazzB1987 said:

IMHO eating meat is useless. I stopped eating it years ago and I am totally healthy no sign whatsoever that something is wrong with my blood/body whatever. You just have to understand whats inside the meat you ate all the time and what other food can provide the iron you lose.  Beans is the answer.

We dont have claws we dont really have "canine teeth" the term is wrong to begin with since Pandas Horses Anteelopes etc all have "canine teeth". So having "canine teeth" especially crippled oned we humans have is no sign at all that we should eat any form of meat.

We have alot of problems digesting raw meat because our body is not ment to do that so we cook meat most of the time. Eating meat creates alot of health issues. And most people only eat meat because its smoked or spiced so it tastes good.


Anatomy:
sharp claws, long, sharp teeth, jaws that move only up and down and a large mouth relative to the head enable carnivores to tear off pieces of raw meat from their prey. On the other hand, humans have soft fingernails, flat teeth and jaws that move side-to-side. Human teeth can't really tear flesh from the bone, and their fingernails can't really tear raw meat. Human teeth are bad at breaking up raw meat, but good at grinding foods with lots of fiber, such as grains, fruits and vegetables.

Our ancestors started to eat meat because they left the places with alot of fruits etc so they began to eat meat and since hoarding a ton of animals that reproduce themselves and that you can take with you when your tribe wanders around the world it became "normal" to eat meat.



Eating meat is not natural at all and not healthy  (especially not for the animal you eat lol) That healthy thing is just industry propaganda.

I stopped eating meat because I realized that my  hamburger or steak dont grow on trees and that hundreds of billions of animals are killed for this. Its especially stupid when you realize you have to waste tons of food to feed animals and at the end you have more work to do (grow it, care about them when they get sick, prevend spreading of deseases etc to processing the animal to food) and less food becaue you always need more food to grow animals than the grown up animal can provide. Thats totally useles... makes everything more expensive and as said wastes ressources/cropland we could use to feed people etc.

But its all about the money thanks to meat farmers etc earn more money and the whole food industry earns more money because bread noodles etc everything is more expensive this way.

Whats also hilarious is in Europe/Germany  there is 10% Ethanol Gas. And people whine about it wasting farmland while producing meat wastes even more of that farmland...  but

Well there is %10 Ethanol Gas in the US also.  And for the most part its a big scam that is heavily subsidized by the government.  Its great for people that grow corn but a big ripp off for everyone else.  Ethanol does almost nothing in lowering emissions on cars it cut down on fuel economy of all vehicles that use it and over time it has a harmful effect on all engines that use it.  Plus more oil is wasted in both fuel and fertilizers then what is actually gained from making ethanol.  Well at least less people are affected by it in Europe/German since pretty much all cars there also come with a Diesel engine option and they can't add ethanol to Diesel fuel.  And unlike ethanol, bio-diesel is actually a good thing.



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ugh...so much ignorance in this thread.



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JazzB1987 said:

IMHO eating meat is useless. I stopped eating it years ago and I am totally healthy no sign whatsoever that something is wrong with my blood/body whatever. You just have to understand whats inside the meat you ate all the time and what other food can provide the iron you lose.  Beans is the answer.

We dont have claws we dont really have "canine teeth" the term is wrong to begin with since Pandas Horses Anteelopes etc all have "canine teeth". So having "canine teeth" especially crippled oned we humans have is no sign at all that we should eat any form of meat.

We have alot of problems digesting raw meat because our body is not ment to do that so we cook meat most of the time. Eating meat creates alot of health issues. And most people only eat meat because its smoked or spiced so it tastes good.


Anatomy:
sharp claws, long, sharp teeth, jaws that move only up and down and a large mouth relative to the head enable carnivores to tear off pieces of raw meat from their prey. On the other hand, humans have soft fingernails, flat teeth and jaws that move side-to-side. Human teeth can't really tear flesh from the bone, and their fingernails can't really tear raw meat. Human teeth are bad at breaking up raw meat, but good at grinding foods with lots of fiber, such as grains, fruits and vegetables.

Our ancestors started to eat meat because they left the places with alot of fruits etc so they began to eat meat and since hoarding a ton of animals that reproduce themselves and that you can take with you when your tribe wanders around the world it became "normal" to eat meat.



Eating meat is not natural at all and not healthy  (especially not for the animal you eat lol) That healthy thing is just industry propaganda.

I stopped eating meat because I realized that my  hamburger or steak dont grow on trees and that hundreds of billions of animals are killed for this. Its especially stupid when you realize you have to waste tons of food to feed animals and at the end you have more work to do (grow it, care about them when they get sick, prevend spreading of deseases etc to processing the animal to food) and less food becaue you always need more food to grow animals than the grown up animal can provide. Thats totally useles... makes everything more expensive and as said wastes ressources/cropland we could use to feed people etc.

But its all about the money thanks to meat farmers etc earn more money and the whole food industry earns more money because bread noodles etc everything is more expensive this way.

Whats also hilarious is in Europe/Germany  there is 10% Ethanol Gas. And people whine about it wasting farmland while producing meat wastes even more of that farmland...  but

If you eat tofu or soybeans and you're a male, than you're impacted by what you eat.

Soybeans contain a protein that appears to the body to be a female hormone.  In women this doesn't create problems, but in males it isn't healthy.

So good luck with that.



oldschoolfool said:
Darth Tigris said:

No, but, yeah, the industry has made how we get it seem pretty wrong in a number of ways.

But still, ...


that looks so good. That looks like anything you'd find at a bbq place. 

Indeed.  Gates and Sons in KC.  One of about 4 BBQ spots in KC that you must eat at before you die/become a vegetarian.  You may even tear up a little.



Adinnieken said:
JazzB1987 said:

IMHO eating meat is useless. I stopped eating it years ago and I am totally healthy no sign whatsoever that something is wrong with my blood/body whatever. You just have to understand whats inside the meat you ate all the time and what other food can provide the iron you lose.  Beans is the answer.

We dont have claws we dont really have "canine teeth" the term is wrong to begin with since Pandas Horses Anteelopes etc all have "canine teeth". So having "canine teeth" especially crippled oned we humans have is no sign at all that we should eat any form of meat.

We have alot of problems digesting raw meat because our body is not ment to do that so we cook meat most of the time. Eating meat creates alot of health issues. And most people only eat meat because its smoked or spiced so it tastes good.


Anatomy:
sharp claws, long, sharp teeth, jaws that move only up and down and a large mouth relative to the head enable carnivores to tear off pieces of raw meat from their prey. On the other hand, humans have soft fingernails, flat teeth and jaws that move side-to-side. Human teeth can't really tear flesh from the bone, and their fingernails can't really tear raw meat. Human teeth are bad at breaking up raw meat, but good at grinding foods with lots of fiber, such as grains, fruits and vegetables.

Our ancestors started to eat meat because they left the places with alot of fruits etc so they began to eat meat and since hoarding a ton of animals that reproduce themselves and that you can take with you when your tribe wanders around the world it became "normal" to eat meat.



Eating meat is not natural at all and not healthy  (especially not for the animal you eat lol) That healthy thing is just industry propaganda.

I stopped eating meat because I realized that my  hamburger or steak dont grow on trees and that hundreds of billions of animals are killed for this. Its especially stupid when you realize you have to waste tons of food to feed animals and at the end you have more work to do (grow it, care about them when they get sick, prevend spreading of deseases etc to processing the animal to food) and less food becaue you always need more food to grow animals than the grown up animal can provide. Thats totally useles... makes everything more expensive and as said wastes ressources/cropland we could use to feed people etc.

But its all about the money thanks to meat farmers etc earn more money and the whole food industry earns more money because bread noodles etc everything is more expensive this way.

Whats also hilarious is in Europe/Germany  there is 10% Ethanol Gas. And people whine about it wasting farmland while producing meat wastes even more of that farmland...  but

If you eat tofu or soybeans and you're a male, than you're impacted by what you eat.

Soybeans contain a protein that appears to the body to be a female hormone.  In women this doesn't create problems, but in males it isn't healthy.

So good luck with that.

This is a complete myth, based on nothing but speculation.  If it were so bad for men, then the Japanese (who have been living off of soy products forever) should be part of some epidemic.  But it's just not true, and it's that false argument elsewhere in the world is further propagated by those with financial interests in the meat industry.  People are so easily controlled by fear, and fear normally revolves around ideas that are misunderstood.  There's also the complete lie that soy can cause breast cancer in women. 

I just wish people exercised more common sense when it comes to these types of schemes.  It's a fucking bean, people.  A. Bean.  And it's one of the healthiest things you can eat.



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