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gergroy said:
Mr Khan said:

It's perfectly valid, because PBS is a fine institution, if only for what it provides to children, and costs America little. Not like Oil Subsidies which, small as they may be, do nothing but line the pockets of big oil.

So killing PBS would be like getting rid of a good .txt file.

This may be a silly question, but why does the government need to fund PBS?  Can't the programs on the channel be funded like any other channel, through advertisement revenue?  

That would undermine the point. It's called "Public" for a reason. How would Mr. Rogers have done if he were beholden to the corporate machine?



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badgenome said:
Jay520 said:

I don't think a lack of fluency is that big of a problem. Plenty of knowledgeable and insightful people happened to be terrible in face-to-face debates. Debates require quick, on-the-fly thinking, which some people don't have. That doesn't mean they aren't knowledgeable on a subject though, it could just means they're poor at debates.

That's why I said it indicates a lack of fluency. If I ask you a question about something and you just stutter and stammer and hem and haw, it doesn't necessarily mean that you don't know the answer. But odds are, you don't.

I disagree. Some questions can be very complex and sensitive, requiring a bit of time to formulate a decent response. Of course in a debate though, if a person pauses or uses verbal fillers when trying to formulate their response, it would appear that they don't know the answer. In actuality though, they could just be ensuring they don't make a slight error resulting in an awkward response.



Mr Khan said:

It's perfectly valid, because PBS is a fine institution, if only for what it provides to children, and costs America little. Not like Oil Subsidies which, small as they may be, do nothing but line the pockets of big oil.

So killing PBS would be like getting rid of a good .txt file.

This is such a stupid meme. Those oil company "subsidies" are nothing more than the deductions that every company gets (domestic manufacturing, capital equipment, etc.), and oil companies still pay a much higher rate than other companies.

I know it's a daunting concept, but do try to understand that just because you're fond of PBS doesn't mean that everyone should pay for it.



Jay520 said:

I disagree. Some questions can be very complex and sensitive, requiring a bit of time to formulate a decent response. Of course in a debate though, if a person pauses or uses verbal fillers when trying to formulate their response, it would appear that they don't know the answer. In actuality though, they could just be ensuring they don't make a slight error resulting in an awkward response.

Could be, I agree. But probably not. Particularly among politicians, who are not particularly given to nuanced or deep and meaningful answers but rather prefer the most politically expedient ones.



badgenome said:
Mr Khan said:

It's perfectly valid, because PBS is a fine institution, if only for what it provides to children, and costs America little. Not like Oil Subsidies which, small as they may be, do nothing but line the pockets of big oil.

So killing PBS would be like getting rid of a good .txt file.

This is such a stupid meme. Those oil company "subsidies" are nothing more than the deductions that every company gets (domestic manufacturing, capital equipment, etc.), and oil companies still pay a much higher rate than other companies.

I know it's a daunting concept, but do try to understand that just because you're fond of PBS doesn't mean that everyone should pay for it.

It serves a public good. Things that serve public good get funded... publicly.



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Mr Khan said:

It serves a public good. Things that serve public good get funded... publicly.

Oil companies serve a public good, one far greater than PBS does.



Mr Khan said:
gergroy said:
Mr Khan said:
 

It's perfectly valid, because PBS is a fine institution, if only for what it provides to children, and costs America little. Not like Oil Subsidies which, small as they may be, do nothing but line the pockets of big oil.

So killing PBS would be like getting rid of a good .txt file.

This may be a silly question, but why does the government need to fund PBS?  Can't the programs on the channel be funded like any other channel, through advertisement revenue?  

That would undermine the point. It's called "Public" for a reason. How would Mr. Rogers have done if he were beholden to the corporate machine?

I imagine Mr. Rogers would of done the same thing, it's a kids show.  There is a market for it, I don't see why it is something that needs to be government funded.  Seems to me that PBS would do just fine without public funding, unless I am missing something?



I think many people missed the point on the PBS example ...

It isn't about whether PBS is a good institution or worth funding in general, it is about whether PBS is worth funding when you know you have to borrow that money to fund it. Maybe PBS is that important and maybe it isn't, but if you're using that as your standard for what gets cut and what gets kept you're on a much better path than the government currently is.

For example, is it worth funding green energy companies that offshore most of their manufacturing to China knowing that you will be borrowing that money from China to fund the company? In my opinion that sounds like a great deal for China and an awful deal for Americans.



Mr Khan said:

That would undermine the point. It's called "Public" for a reason. How would Mr. Rogers have done if he were beholden to the corporate machine?

Rog Against the Machine!



Mr Khan said:
badgenome said:
Mr Khan said:

It's perfectly valid, because PBS is a fine institution, if only for what it provides to children, and costs America little. Not like Oil Subsidies which, small as they may be, do nothing but line the pockets of big oil.

So killing PBS would be like getting rid of a good .txt file.

This is such a stupid meme. Those oil company "subsidies" are nothing more than the deductions that every company gets (domestic manufacturing, capital equipment, etc.), and oil companies still pay a much higher rate than other companies.

I know it's a daunting concept, but do try to understand that just because you're fond of PBS doesn't mean that everyone should pay for it.

It serves a public good. Things that serve public good get funded... publicly.


That is a very flawed statement there, I'll give you a second to realize and retract...