I agree, Ape Escape is classic... and iconic.

And historical, no less... it was the first dual shock game, too, I think.

More like.... Evil frying people to death with red electricity and... good frying people to death with blue electricity in slightly different ways.

and square will get a cut... and each character will be $25... 

If Square's recent DLC options are any indication

The Ape escape games have sold just over 3.6million units.... over the course of 8 games over 11 years, the last retail game to come out was in 2005 on the ps2 and it sold 130k units that is on a system with 150million people as an install base at the time meaning less than 1 in every 1000 ps2 owner bothered with the last ape escape game, while you yourself might like the series to "LOL" at people not knowing it is just silly we're part of the 999 of the 1000 people which had you as the person who still liked Ape Escape 7 years ago, See what I'm getting at?

As for Radec 4 games over 8 years and they've sold 7million that is pretty damn good to be honest but still it's not like anyone who hasn't played those game is going to know he is a character from that game, not like say Kirby.... you see him, you might not have played his games but you've a fair idea he is from the Kirby Series. Heh also just noticed how much Killzone has sold in Japan the area vita needs to get a good proper boost of units out there and yeah I doubt anyone there will have the slightest idea who this guy is.

if square has a say in the DLC goings on here we'll also be getting the option of N7 armor for everyone on the roster....

I'm not disputing the fact that the series Ape Escape is known by anyone who walked through a game shop in the past 10 years, what I am saying is that almost none of those people know that there is a human in them called Spike and that he is infact the guy you play as and not one of the cool monkeys with the flashing lights on their heads that are all over the games covers.

Ape Escape is a very important franchise in Sony's history Ganoncrotch... and that's what counts for this game, not recent sales.

It simply was the Dual Shock launch game. Aaaand...

There's no monkeys on my 3DS MGS :(

But thank god there's Yoshi :)

i am 100% sure that there holding back ALOT of characters that will be released as DLC to make them a some extra bonus cash. maybe charging £1 to £2 per character.

Those 3 lines sum up the whole problem imo.

I have heard of Ape Escape, I have played one of them on the PSP god knows maybe 5 years ago or so. But I have no idea who "Spike" is, what he looks like or that he was in an Ape Escape game.

I don't really know any of the characters. Because the characters in this roster, you will only have heard of if you have played the games they are in and played them for more than a few hours to actually remember them, and let's face it - they aren't really that memorable.

Maybe that's just the problem with a lot of PS3 games where people just don't know about the characters apart from 4-5.

My other problem with those 4-5 is that I know of them mostly because of annoying fanboys on the internet. Like some silly sods who have Nathan Drake as an avatar and keep going on about how "kick ass" Kratos is and so forth.

Yes I own a PSP, PS2 and a PS3 - Yes I play a games on those consoles. People can hardly say the likes of Sly Cooper are popular characters. I know who he is as "some character that looks like a fox". I don't know anyone else who knows who he is. Unless you're really into Sony as a company and a heavy supporter of the PS3 I doubt many people will have heard of more than half of that character list.

That isn't really a good thing and maybe a game of this nature isn't a good idea if they don't have the recognition to back it up.

SSBB - The only games I play on recent Nintendo platforms avidly aren't from first party - yet I recognize each and every one of the characters in Brawl, because they ooze appeal. These characters aren't the notable part of the games they were in, they are just characters that were in the games they were in. I'm quite sure many people would recognise every enemy that is in Super Mario World and they could make a better roster from that single game than what is in this.

Just done a count, there are 7 characters there who not only do I not recognize the name, I don't even recognize them from how they look or have a clue what game they were in.

ughhh...Radec is VERY well known to any KZ fan...and KZ franchise has played a big part for sony this gen. Especially KZ2. Argue all you want...but fact of the matter is KZ is important part of PS..and Radec is one of the most popular characters in the franchise. You are using your own personal knowledge which is lacking severely..as general concensus. Please go read up any reaveal related threads in any popular forum and see how many know Radec. You are grasping at straws now and to be frank it's a tad annoying. Helghans have been in all KZ games (obviously) ..appeared in Uncharted MP...have even appeared in other games like Lost Planet 2. If you are a PS fan...even if you don't know jack about KZ..you should be able to recognize a Helghan...and outside of visari, who would not fit well with this game at all lol...Radec is the most iconic. Again I suggest not letting your own limited knowledge fool you.

I rather not comment on Kirby or any ninty character cuz people might get butt hurt and this will derail the thread. 

As for ape escape..ffs...again I use SOTC as an example...it's not all about sales geez. Ape Escape is a very important franchise to Sony. Forget about the sales..the fact that there have been 8 friggin games should tell you that. It won't be the last either. When fans (you know..the guys who this is actually catered to) were discussing possible character inclusions...ape escape came up constantly! I know because I was part of that conversation here, in gaf and few other sites. They were arguing who it should be...Spike, Spectr or a monkey. I believe this series also has an animated series...I need to look that one up. 

ps: just saw fillet going on about how even sly is not well known -_- why do I even bother at this point

yeah I think I'm done...let's just agree to disagree