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Birimbau on 28 September 2012
man-bear-pig said:
Birimbau said:
man-bear-pig said:

Bad move from Sony. The camera industry is rapidly dying because of smartphones.. Wasting ¥50bn yen on something like this is COMPLETELY insane

Are you comparing the laughable cameras in smatphones with professional ones?


Yes


As I thought, just a troll trolling, I bought Sony RX100 camera recently, if you just want to post photos as a poser in facebook, just go with a smatphone, but if you want true quality photos, go with a professional one.



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Chark on 28 September 2012

Some pretty good returns on this if the projections pan out. 1 trillion yen a year holding 20% marketshare. That's 4 times the cost of that 11% shareholder price after 7-8 years working in that business sector. What do you think their initial gains/losses will be building up to 2020?



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

Cthulhu on 28 September 2012
kowenicki said:
Cthulhu said:
DirtyP2002 said:

You might like this, here are some spendings Sony did in the past 12 months:

  • 380 Million USD for Gaikai
  • 644 million for 11% of Olympus
  • 2.2 billion for EMI (Well it was a group of investors, led by Sony. The biggest investor was a company from Abu-Dhabi though)
  • 1.35 billion for the missing 50% of Sony Ericsson from Ericsson

Isn't that strange for a company that reported a 4.3 billion USD loss in the past year and hasn't been profitable for almost 5 years now? Especially with their downgraded rating 3 days ago.

The medical business is profitable, but it is also highly competitive. Philips, Siemens, GE or Agfa Healthcare won't just sit there and see how Sony does.

"Isn't that strange for a company that reported a 4.3 billion USD loss in the past year and hasn't been profitable for almost 5 years now? Especially with their downgraded rating 3 days ago."

This question should go to those kids that think they are business experts besause they work in a video game retail shop or read too much on the internet


Really do get sick and tired of posts like this. Who in this thread is this aimed at? Specifically please. Be a man. 

do you read too much on the internet or you work in a video game retail shop?

one of the above qualifies you as a business expert it seems



DirtyP2002 on 28 September 2012
M.U.G.E.N said:
DirtyP2002 said:

You might like this, here are some spendings Sony did in the past 12 months:

  • 380 Million USD for Gaikai
  • 644 million for 11% of Olympus
  • 2.2 billion for EMI (Well it was a group of investors, led by Sony. The biggest investor was a company from Abu-Dhabi though)
  • 1.35 billion for the missing 50% of Sony Ericsson from Ericsson

Isn't that strange for a company that reported a 4.3 billion USD loss in the past year and hasn't been profitable for almost 5 years now? Especially with their downgraded rating 3 days ago.

The medical business is profitable, but it is also highly competitive. Philips, Siemens, GE or Agfa Healthcare won't just sit there and see how Sony does.

@bolded: not at all. To put it in the simplest of terms, you got to spend money to make money. And all the ones you listed are good investment choices. And I'm sure there's more too. I remember them buying a new lense making factory a while back as well. THe company as a whole is going through some major restructuring and refocusing now.

here's the one I was talking about

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hPJhW-b-9ryflRHoiz8BIxNhdXng?docId=CNG.f49ea2abd665cb7a7cb0dbbad1fc7346.651

This is how you get out of a slump..by being active and having some good long term goals/investments


Okay, anything else except phrases?



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

M.U.G.E.N on 28 September 2012
DirtyP2002 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
DirtyP2002 said:

You might like this, here are some spendings Sony did in the past 12 months:

  • 380 Million USD for Gaikai
  • 644 million for 11% of Olympus
  • 2.2 billion for EMI (Well it was a group of investors, led by Sony. The biggest investor was a company from Abu-Dhabi though)
  • 1.35 billion for the missing 50% of Sony Ericsson from Ericsson

Isn't that strange for a company that reported a 4.3 billion USD loss in the past year and hasn't been profitable for almost 5 years now? Especially with their downgraded rating 3 days ago.

The medical business is profitable, but it is also highly competitive. Philips, Siemens, GE or Agfa Healthcare won't just sit there and see how Sony does.

@bolded: not at all. To put it in the simplest of terms, you got to spend money to make money. And all the ones you listed are good investment choices. And I'm sure there's more too. I remember them buying a new lense making factory a while back as well. THe company as a whole is going through some major restructuring and refocusing now.

here's the one I was talking about

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hPJhW-b-9ryflRHoiz8BIxNhdXng?docId=CNG.f49ea2abd665cb7a7cb0dbbad1fc7346.651

This is how you get out of a slump..by being active and having some good long term goals/investments


Okay, anything else except phrases?


what do you mean exactly?



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fillet on 28 September 2012
man-bear-pig said:

Bad move from Sony. The camera industry is rapidly dying because of smartphones.. Wasting ¥50bn yen on something like this is COMPLETELY insane

 

You do know what Micro Four Thirds is right? Mirrorless cameras?....The premium compact SLR market is BOOMING.

Panasonic are releasing a new Lumix GH3 in a month or so (which I will be buying) that will cost around $2000, it's got to the point where casual people are buying these cameras because they are so damn good. We're talking SLR quality photos in compact (well nearly) form factor. Then you add on the price of extra lenses and so on. Got a GF3 myself currently and lenses worth about $2000 too altogether, got the camera cheap and got hooked.

 

It's actually quite good value, the lenses aren't expensive per se - $300 for example for a 45-200mm telephoto, but some different ones are expensive. Anyways...lots of people are getting into this, the people who normally would just buy a Lumix TZ-whatever and be done with it.

Seriously dude. I'll hold my hand up for talking rubbish sometimes but you have taken the cake on this one.



DirtyP2002 on 28 September 2012
M.U.G.E.N said:
DirtyP2002 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
DirtyP2002 said:

You might like this, here are some spendings Sony did in the past 12 months:

  • 380 Million USD for Gaikai
  • 644 million for 11% of Olympus
  • 2.2 billion for EMI (Well it was a group of investors, led by Sony. The biggest investor was a company from Abu-Dhabi though)
  • 1.35 billion for the missing 50% of Sony Ericsson from Ericsson

Isn't that strange for a company that reported a 4.3 billion USD loss in the past year and hasn't been profitable for almost 5 years now? Especially with their downgraded rating 3 days ago.

The medical business is profitable, but it is also highly competitive. Philips, Siemens, GE or Agfa Healthcare won't just sit there and see how Sony does.

@bolded: not at all. To put it in the simplest of terms, you got to spend money to make money. And all the ones you listed are good investment choices. And I'm sure there's more too. I remember them buying a new lense making factory a while back as well. THe company as a whole is going through some major restructuring and refocusing now.

here's the one I was talking about

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hPJhW-b-9ryflRHoiz8BIxNhdXng?docId=CNG.f49ea2abd665cb7a7cb0dbbad1fc7346.651

This is how you get out of a slump..by being active and having some good long term goals/investments


Okay, anything else except phrases?


what do you mean exactly?


The bolded part.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

M.U.G.E.N on 28 September 2012
DirtyP2002 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
DirtyP2002 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

@bolded: not at all. To put it in the simplest of terms, you got to spend money to make money. And all the ones you listed are good investment choices. And I'm sure there's more too. I remember them buying a new lense making factory a while back as well. THe company as a whole is going through some major restructuring and refocusing now.

here's the one I was talking about

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hPJhW-b-9ryflRHoiz8BIxNhdXng?docId=CNG.f49ea2abd665cb7a7cb0dbbad1fc7346.651

This is how you get out of a slump..by being active and having some good long term goals/investments


Okay, anything else except phrases?


what do you mean exactly?


The bolded part.

ugh...you're joking right? You are asking me about something that should be fairly obvious to any one with at least a little bit of business sense. Good investment and long term planning is the way to recovery...that's just how it is. Do you disagree with this statement?

and lots of buy outs, lay offs, new ventures, joint ventures...if these doesn't tell you a refocusing and restructuring...then nothing will.

basically you are asking me to explain something that should be rather obvious...to anyone.



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crissindahouse on 28 September 2012
DirtyP2002 said:

You might like this, here are some spendings Sony did in the past 12 months:

  • 380 Million USD for Gaikai
  • 644 million for 11% of Olympus
  • 2.2 billion for EMI (Well it was a group of investors, led by Sony. The biggest investor was a company from Abu-Dhabi though)
  • 1.35 billion for the missing 50% of Sony Ericsson from Ericsson

Isn't that strange for a company that reported a 4.3 billion USD loss in the past year and hasn't been profitable for almost 5 years now? Especially with their downgraded rating 3 days ago.

The medical business is profitable, but it is also highly competitive. Philips, Siemens, GE or Agfa Healthcare won't just sit there and see how Sony does.

no, that isn't strange. if you have a company, even if it is let's say a small cafe and you see the concept doesn't work anymore but you still have some money left, you can start to try something new and don't just have to wait to see how your cafe will make one loss after the next until you have no money anymore.

sony could hope to get back on track with which is not very profitable for them atm or they can look at new ways to get out of the situation and invest in some other stuff as long as they have something to invest because if they will wait forever there is nothing anymore to get out of the situation with new financial decisions.

btw they bought this now but they also sold their chemical products business today for 57 billion yen so you could say they used the money they got today to invest in something else.



small44 on 28 September 2012

They lose money every quarter and they still buy every thing????



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m