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PhalanxCO on 07 November 2008
CrazzyMan said:
FJ-Warez, then WHY don`t you leave THIS thread? =)

 

Because your failure is too epic to stay away.



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Baddman on 07 November 2008

this thread is awesome :) keep up the good work crazzyman



mike_intellivision on 07 November 2008

Crazyman

You cannot argue for a worldwide launch and then examine numbers by region and not expect everyone to protest.

And with that comment, I withdraw from this thread. To say any more would risk being impolite and immature.

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TWRoO on 07 November 2008
CrazzyMan said:
mike_intellivision, yeah, the are differenece.
so what?

PS3 is selling 4,5 months less in Europe, then in other regions, so what? People still compare PS3 and x360 sales, and speak about difference between them.

Actually by your comparison it is still more months in Europe for PS3.
PS2 life Jan1st 2001: Jpn - 9.5months / Ame - 2.5mth / Eu - 1.5mth
PS3 life Jan1st 2008: Jpn - 13 months / Ame -13.5mth / Eu - 9 months
As you can see the only one even remotely comparable is Japan, but you just took Japan out of your recent post because it's the one where the PS3 fails the most compared to PS2

PS2 launched in March 2000. Was selling for 10 month.
PS3 launched in November 2006. Was selling for 1,5 month.

10 month of 2000 close to 1 year? YES.
1,5 month of 2006 close to 1 year? NO.
12 month of 2007 close to 1 year? YES.

Overall:
2000 PS2 = 2007 PS3.
2001 PS2 = 2008 PS3.
IF console selling less or more in some regions since it`s lifetime started, THIS doesn`t matter.

Like on Front page Console sales are compared/stated at THIS time. it doesn`t matter, that Wii and PS3 were launched later.
And the comparison of PS3 now and 360 now has value for looking at what will happen in their respective futures, and what they are doing in respect to each other because they are competing.
The comparison of PS2 to PS3 for those particular years has no value at all for predicting what the PS3 will do in the future, and there is no reason to compare how they are doing in respect to each other because the PS2 in 2001 was not competing with the PS3 now (not without breaking time).

IF you don`t care about sales of Sony products - LEAVE this thread.
IF you are Sony hater - LEAVE this thread.
IF you DON`T believe in PS3 success - LEAVE this thread.
I wonder, some people here are retarded or just don`t have reading skills...

As I said above, the difference is what the comparison is useful for.

IF you compare the correct respective years of 2 consoles then you can use it to help predict future sales of one console..... this is not the case with your comparison.

IF you compare the sales of 2 consoles as they are competing against each other it can be useful too, but the PS2 didn't start competing with the PS3 until the PS3 launched, so this is also not the case with your comparison.

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Oh and to the final part, I actually do care about the sales of Sony products, I am not a Sony hater, and success is relative, in that I believe the PS3 will be a success in terms of how well it competes with a juggernaut popular console like the Wii, in fact it looks like only the Genesis/Megadrive will have perfomed a better 2nd place (comparative to 1st). However I don't think the PS3 will be a success compared to PS2, nor will it be a success in terms of profit for Sony (alone, taking out what PS2/PSP are doing now)

 



FJ-Warez on 07 November 2008
CrazzyMan said:
FJ-Warez, then WHY don`t you leave THIS thread? =)

Because I care about the sales of the Sony products :)

IF you don`t care about sales of Sony products - LEAVE this thread.



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FishyJoe on 07 November 2008

I don't think Crazzyman will ever understand the concept of cherry picking. If you only look at certain cherry picked facts, the earth will appear flat. In Crazzyman's mind, the world is always flat.



TWRoO on 07 November 2008
FishyJoe said:
I don't think Crazzyman will ever understand the concept of cherry picking. If you only look at certain cherry picked facts, the earth will appear flat. In Crazzyman's world the world is always flat.

You need a sig.... may I suggest this picture:



 



CrazzyMan on 07 November 2008

FJ-Warez, BUT if you:

IF you are Sony hater - LEAVE this thread.
IF you DON`T believe in PS3 success - LEAVE this thread.

If only 1 of 3 statements are correct in your case, then you should LEAVE. :)

mike_intellivision, GOOD BYE. =)

Baddman, thnx. :)

@TWRoO, The difference between ME and YOU,
That you believe, that 2008 is NOT 2nd year of PS3 life and 2001 is NOT 2nd year of PS2 life.

I agree, there is a difference, between numbers of MONTHS of sales in particular region since launch in THAT region.

BUT, i compare sales since FIRST console launch.
I see, that THIS simple thing you can`t understand.

On 2nd year of console LIFE it CAN sell more months in one region and less month in another region. IT DOESN`T MATTER. ONLY SALES matter.
Is that CLEAR???



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

FJ-Warez on 07 November 2008
CrazzyMan said:
FJ-Warez, BUT if you:
IF you are Sony hater - LEAVE this thread.
IF you DON`T believe in PS3 success - LEAVE this thread.

If only 1 of 3 statements are correct in your case, then you should LEAVE. :)

 

But I don´t hate the PS3... and I believe in the success of the PS3 (Beating the 360 of course)



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TWRoO on 07 November 2008
CrazzyMan said:

@TWRoO, The difference between ME and YOU,
That you belive, that 2008 is NOT 2nd year of PS3 life and 2001 is NOT 2nd year of PS2 life.

I agree, there is a difference, between numbers of MONTHS of sales in particular region since launch in THAT region.

BUT, i compare sales since FIRST console launch.
I see, that THIS simple thing you can`t understand.
It's not that I don't understand, it's that it is not a fair comparison.... Just like using the WW graph from launch for PS2 and PS3 is not a fair comparison

On 2nd year of console LIFE it CAN sell more months in one region and less month in another region. IT DOESN`T MATTER. ONLY SALES matter.
Is that CLEAR???
It's clear, but it does matter.... I could make a thread comparing PS3 2007 to Wii 2009 if I wanted, but it would be absolutely useless. Or I could compare the X360 in 2008 to the PS1 in 1996 (if we had full data) which would seemingly show the X360 trouncing the PS1

There is nothing I don't understand about this thread and comparison other than your belief that it is anything more than that it is worthless to compare.