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CrazzyMan on 11 May 2008
Slimebeast said:
CrazzyMan said:

@Slimebeast,
1,5 month or 6 weeks of 2006 is negligible to be considered as full year, don`t you think so? :)
NO, why not?


True. But as you have heard a million times, 2000 was not a full year for PS2 either. If 6 weeks in Japan and 6 weeks in USA is negligible you can argue that March-Dec 2000 in a small market like Japan is also negligible, don't you think?


22,5 mln. of PS2 total in Japan and 3,5 mln. PS2 in Japan till the end of 2000 negligible? Really? :)

More over, i`m looking at time/periods of console life (SINCE it`s FIRST launch), that`s why it doesn`t matter How much months it was selling in other regions and was it supply constrained or not.

You are not using the timeframe parallel! You have to use the SAME STARTING WEEK AND END WEEK.

Because it`s ALREADY done HERE:
http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=------&weeks=85&weekly=1
AND i USE different weeks, JUST to see, How PS2 and PS3 were doing at same month like january, februarty, march and etc.
That`s why i just ignore those 16 extra weeks. To be able see how both consoles were doing in SAME months. Otherwise it will be like in a link above, Same weeks but in different MONTHS.

This means that the chart you posted is actualy comparing 52 months of PS3 sales to just 39 months of PS2 sales for the same 78 week time period.  Now do you see how that is an unfair comparison and why epople tell you that you need to compare by territory?

Easy, WHAT effect those MONTHS count have on 60-78th weekly sales.
Do you know? LOL. then what the point?

i`m comparing since 45th week of PS2 launch with 61st week since PS3 launch, BECAUSE these weeks are at SAME MONTHS.
+ 16 weeks is not that big difference, that`s why i practically call that period 2nd year for both consoles.



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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Slimebeast on 11 May 2008

CrazzyMan,

What is your prediction for consoles sold by 31 Dec 2012 - Wii, PS3 and X360?



dtewi on 11 May 2008

I really want to kill myself with your thinking.

That is not a valid comparison. PS2 was not out in all markets. When PS3 was released in Others, it still did not match WW Weekly sales for PS2. Notice I said WW. WW. WW.



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Viper1 on 11 May 2008

I still don't think you follow me, Crazzy.

Your week to week comparison is fine. It's the overall total PS2 vs PS3 sales at 78 weeks chart that you keep posting that is unfair.

Basically that chart just means that the PS2 is selling as many consoles in far fewer months as the PS3 is.



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dtewi on 11 May 2008

+16 Months is a pretty damn big difference. That is nearly 1/3 a year, or an extra 3 million for PS3.



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Kasz216 on 11 May 2008
dtewi said:
+16 Months is a pretty damn big difference. That is nearly 1/3 a year, or an extra 3 million for PS3.

He's just comparing 2001 to 2008. I believe PS3 releaesed in europe in late 2000. I think.

The problem is however the PS2 was HEAVILY supply constrained during 2001. Therefore comparing the two years are worthless since even if the PS3 matched or even surpased 2001's numbers it could (and does) have much less demand, and therefore will sell much less lifetime.

It's like saying if the Wii matched the PS3 next week due to wii's supply constraints that they both have the same level of demand.  Any comparison of Wii to any other system while it's still supply constrained in some markets is worthless unless it exceeds the other number.



vaio on 11 May 2008

This thread and crazzyman just because more and more insane and out of touch with reality.

What´s the point of comparing console sales of the same months but ignoring everything else?



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trestres on 12 May 2008

This thread has the same validity as this:
comparing GC's 2002 december numbers vs PS3's 2007 february numbers. This puts the GC ahead of the PS3.

Then cause PS3 = PS2 -> GC> PS2 damn GC won last generation!

Why did I do this comparison? Cause I ned to see my console of choice doing well in an imaginary dimension.

If you dont believe in GC's success leave the thread.
If you are a Nintendo hater, leave the thread.



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That Guy on 12 May 2008

hey c'mon quit dogpiling on the Crazzy-Crazzy

Even with everything skewed towards the PS3, the PS2 is still beating it out :-p



CrazzyMan on 12 May 2008

Whatever,
if you care so much, that i aligned 45th week since ps2 launch with 61st week since ps3 launch to be able to compare weekly sales BY SAME MONTHS, then it`s your problem.
That 16 weeks difference doesn`t bother me.
And again, i am not comparing different periods, i compare VERY CLOSE periods to each one of SAME console family. :) And you can`t deny that, lol.

Whatever you say, BUT if ps3 will be able to track 2001 ps2 sales during it`s second year of LIFE and sell 16 mln. consoles, i wil call it a SUCCESS, no matter what you say. =)
End of discussion, back to the tracking. :)



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far