The PS3 is a success story thus far, however I feel as though one of the kjey features that it is missing that made the PS2 such a success is the common touch. The PS2 was cheap and easy to produce games for and so this added to lots of movie tie ins, Product based games (think disney/lego) and popular based games (Singstar etc...).

The wii has taken this crown from the PS3 now.

However I feel as though to be deemed a success the PS3 must reach a sales figure of at least 40 million by the end of the current generation. It is on target for this but it needs to keep up.

So your point is that your flawed comparison will continue to work for a few more months before it fails. I can definitely agree with that.

It's never too much to post the graphs which expose this thread's fatal flaw. Here is the trilogy of per-territory PS2 vs PS3 graphs:

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS3&reg2=Japan&cons3=PS3&reg3=Japan&weeks=156

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=PS3&reg3=America&weeks=156

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=Europe&cons2=PS3&reg2=Europe&cons3=PS3&reg3=Europe&weeks=156

You could just use the charts you know.

Using Crazyman's silly formula Wii is ahead 12 million and has nearly doubled the PS2 number.  So if PS3 is on pace with the PS2 sales wise... Wii should sell around 240 million this generation!

Using the correct way to do it Wii is only ahead 3 Million or so.

 so going from 130-140 million to 40 million and losing billions of dollars and exclusives is a success now days?

Well what he's saying isn't even true. The PS2 was not easy to produce games for. The PS2 was a pain in the ass to develop for due to the emotion engine.

I mean, why else do you think they can't get a working emulator on the PS3. Sony themselves... the company that made the damn thing.

Now Dreamcast.  That was an easy system to make games on.  If that was what made it successful Dreamcast would of won.  Dreamcast you just used a format based off of Sega's Arcade machines.  That's why you still see Dreamcast releases every once in a while. 

@Kasz216, oh.. everything is in the FIRST post of this thread. =)

*THE MAIN POINT of THIS THREAD - is to SEE how far/close will PS3 be in 2008 compared to PS2 with it`s 16 mln. consoles sold in 2001.

You have the problem with that? =)

Now the most interesting question, will MGS4 and WKS releases in summer give some love to PS3 in Japan, because durign the summer, ps2 was sellign around 100k per week. =) Also i hope Eternal Sonata will be released by that time, and maybe Siren will make some effect on sales. =]

Console`s life STARTS with NOT launch in EVERY region, BUT since FIRST launch.

@NJ5, i am NOT comparing SALES years, i am comparing LIFE years with looking at sales. =) That`s a pretty smart move. =))

That's why when comparing a current things to past things the best metric to use is games total.

There is no point to do it unless you have an alterior motive to try and make the mediocre 2nd year play look good.

Crazzyman ignore them all man. they ate just hatting because nobody wants to believethe ps3 will do well. Weather you have cherry picked the data or not dont matter because if the ps3 was selling that bad than nothing you could do could make it look good. remember tho the ps3 has been having a good year so far selling on par with the ps2 and costing how much more than it. it would be interesting where the ps3 would be now if it was selling 299USD

@Kasz216, PS3 has MUCH more common with PSone/ps2 then "some mediocre 2nd year players stats with Ken Griffey JR's 2nd year stats like 15 baseball games because he was injured that year."
Don`t you get that?

I don't know.  The Republican party dd a pretty good job convincing people Bush was a good President during his reelection... and PS3 is nowhere near that level of failure.