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Nice idea, i will look forward to seeing what results this shows.



 

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zackblue said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
Does this remind anyone else of Narnia? The boy's uncle didn't want to hear the Lion speak, so there was nothing the Lion could do.

If Crazzy is the uncle, I'm very glad I'm not the boy ::):):)

Off topic:

 

There's a new Narnia movie coming out this may, I saw the trailor for it on the playstation network.


 Yeah, I've seen the trailer too! Looks a lot less silly than the first one, which is a very good thing!



What's with all the CrazzyMan hate in this thread?

I, for one, appreciate the work he's doing. It will be interesting to see if the ps3 can hold up against the ps2 for this timeframe. If it does, then it may be able to stack up against the ps2 in future years. Sure, his timeframes may be a little off (six months for EU and JP, 12 months for NA), but it's the best he can do to keep holidays, etc. aligned.

Crazzy, for the week ending Jan. 27/28, shouldn't it be -33k instead of +33k?



What sales number does PS3 have to beat to win this year?



 

@ Magic.

We don't have anything against Crazzy himself (okay, I might, but the other guys are nice) we just point out that the work he did was actually wrong.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

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Again, I never said that $300 wasn't consumer friendly. Obviously $250 is slightly more consumer friendly, but not a lot.
NO, you DIDN`T get the POINT.
2000 - 6 mln.
2001 - 22 mln.
26 mln. for 300$.
2002 - 43 mln. Priceut in May.
21 mln. for 200$ price.
2003 - 61 mln. Pricecut in May.
18 mln. for 180$ price.
2004 - 77 mln. pricecut in May.
2005 - 94 mln.
2006 - 106 mln.

300$ is already user friendly.

ps3 Shin Sangoku Musou 5 386,885 - 87%
x360 Shin Sangoku Musou 5 57,599 - 13%
pretty same with DMC4 numbers.

In terms of HW weekly sales, it`s 36k and 4k on average. 4k is 10%.
10% - console is dead.

@makingmusic476, on first page all graphics and numbers. That week was first week, when ps2 outsold ps3 in total numbers, but that mostly thnx to Onimusha release in Japan. It will be compensated this week with many tittles released in Japan. But even in PS3 will make 60k in Japan, it will be still 10k behind in totals, which could be compensated next week after this. =)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

CrazzyMan said:

Again, I never said that $300 wasn't consumer friendly. Obviously $250 is slightly more consumer friendly, but not a lot.
NO, you DIDN`T get the POINT.

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300$ is already user friendly.

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In terms of HW weekly sales, it`s 36k and 4k on average. 4k is 10%.
10% - console is dead.


Read the bold parts very carefully...

With weekly averages of 81k, 35k, and 4k for the Wii, PS3, and 360 respectively, the Wii has 67% of the Japanese market, and is doing much better than the PS2 at this point in it's life (weekly average of Jan. sales - 48k), even with compeditors.



Ok, this might be totally on topic, but it sort off is.

Some people say that the reason that the Wii is doing so well, is only price.

Norway:
Wii price: 2400-2800 Nkr (about 413-482 dollars)
Xbox 360 arcade price: 1900 Nkr (about 327 dollars)
Ps3 price: 2999Kr-3999Kr (depending on size, I'm not sure about the sizes, I think it is still 80Gb and 20 Gb.) That equals 520-680 dollars

When I then tell you that the console sales are at about 140k, shouldn't that mean that X360 has 100K? No it doesn't. Ps3 has Roughly 57K, Wii has roughly 57K and X360 has 35K.

Norway might be a really small market, but it shows that even if 360 was very cheap, it wouldn't necessarily beat Wii. Source: http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=15707&start=251



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

Oyvoyvoyv said:
Ok, this might be totally on topic, but it sort off is.

Some people say that the reason that the Wii is doing so well, is only price.

Norway:
Wii price: 2400-2800 Nkr (about 413-482 dollars)
Xbox 360 arcade price: 1900 Nkr (about 327 dollars)
Ps3 price: 2999Kr-3999Kr (depending on size, I'm not sure about the sizes, I think it is still 80Gb and 20 Gb.) That equals 520-680 dollars

When I then tell you that the console sales are at about 320K, shouldn't that mean that X360 has 175ish K? No it doesn't. Ps3 has Roughly 130K, Wii has roughly 130K and X360 has 60K.

Norway might be a really small market, but it shows that even if 360 was very cheap, it wouldn't necessarily beat Wii. Source: http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=15707&start=251


Okay, just a few small corrections (but you hit pretty well though!):

The Wii in Norway is without exception around 2500 flat (mostly 2495), and there have been no sales or percentage cuts on it in any store as far as I've heard. The 360 Arcade is the cheapest version in Norway, but it costs almost exactly 2500 NOK as well, and I have never seen it cheaper than that. The PS3 has had 2 special campaign pricings in its lifetime; one was a slight subsidy from Telenor where they gave you 25% off on a PS3 if you signed up for ADSL with them for 12 months and the other was a Spaceworld sale where PS3's went for 2995 for 6 weeks. Other than that, the PS3 remains at the 3995 price point to date, so all three have had very stable pricing and few good offers yet.

To sum up; in 99% of the cases, the price would be:

Wii: 2495NOK

X-Box 360 Arcade: 2495NOK

PS3: 3995NOK

I don't know where Vgchartz got those LT numbers though, they seem awfully high, almost twice of those I've heard (Wii and PS3 at 57.000 jan 1st and 360 at roughly 35.000), I'll try to look into it though!



Darn, I was looking at Norway + Sweden + Denmark numbers, but they appear to have changed now. At elkjop.no they actually have arcade for 1700Kr (http://www.elkjop.no/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/store-elkjop-Site/no_NO/-/NOK/SearchCatalog-ViewCategory;pgid=oyCz6oZK.LxSR0EjcIZBwx1e000087yfumXs?CatalogCategoryID=mMfD4QFHoKsAAAEOOFwcHzyT)



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS