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this weeks numbers lower ps3's lead to around 25.000



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4th week UPDATE:

PS2 January 28th - PS3 January 27th
USA - 67k <> USA - 51k
Japan - 49k <> Japan - 32k
Others - 61k <> Others - 63k
Total - 177k <> Total - 147k
Burnout 5 on PS3 vs Onimusha on PS2. New FFXIII/v scans. Demo of DMC4. Rumour about PS3 pricecut in USA.
PS2 vs PS3 = +33k



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

Crazzy, anyone with half a brain can twist data. Even you. Why not just look against other current-gen consoles, and focus on the fact that it is taking Europe with storm (well, not really)

@Stever.

You're not really getting a lot of post count you know? You write 4 times as much as everyone else on the thread, in each post. If you want high post count, do as Crazzy, and post many short comments, without any sence, and then 5 more to explain it.

Well, if you did that, you wouldn't really be you, would you?



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@Oyvoyvoyv, what twisting? are you LoL? =)))
give it up, your comments are pointless for this thread. =]



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

CrazzyMan said:

IF you DON`T believe in PS3 success - LEAVE this thread.


 So basically you just want people who think the PS3 will come out on top to come in here and make you feel better about the console you decided to purchase?  Huh?

OT:

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS&reg1=All&cons2=PS2&reg2=All&cons3=PS3&reg3=All&weeks=156

It is tracking similar to the PS2 but you CAN'T compare them like that.  The environment is completely different now than it was then. 

If you want to remain with blinders on, that is fine, but try to realize the context of data is usually more important than the numbers.  Obviously the PS3 isn't a flop as I am sure many on the forums wished for, but it most certainly doesn't stand much of a chance of PS2 numbers.

The logic you are using is the same that Nintendo fans use when they take a chart like this:

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS2&reg2=All&cons3=DS&reg3=All&weeks=156

and claim the Wii will be the best selling system of all time. 

Sure these claims are POSSIBLE but there is no possible way to determine that from the data we have now, and the numbers, in context, certainly don't back up either claim.



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and claim the Wii will be the best selling system of all time.
@CrashMan, it`s ok about Wii.
100-120 mln. is still a GREAT number for PS3. =)
PSone numbers are only from Japan.
It is tracking similar to the PS2 but you CAN'T compare them like that. The environment is completely different now than it was then.
THAT`s WHY it`s NOTHING bad, if PS3 won`t catch PS2 2001 numbers in 2008. BUT it will be GREAT, if PS3 will catch. =)

PS3 has advantage over PS2 in 2008, IF games won`t be delayed, 2008 will be MUCH greater year for ps3, then 2001 was for PS2 in terms of games.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

The reason PS2 sold so well was because it was the dominant platform and got the vast majority of 3rd party resources. That is no longer the case. You can't compare the numbers and draw the conclusion that the PS3 will outsell the PS2



I am a Gauntlet Adventurer.

I strive to improve my living conditions by hoarding gold, food, and sometimes keys and potions. I love adventure, fighting, and particularly winning - especially when there's a prize at stake. I occasionally get lost inside buildings and can't find the exit. I need food badly. What Video Game Character Are You?

Mega Man 9 Challenges: 74%

Waltz Tango Jitterbug Bust a move Headbanging
Bunny Hop Mr. Trigger Happy Double Trouble Mr. Perfect Invincible
Almost Invincible No Coffee Break Air Shoes Mega Diet Encore
Peacekeeper Conservationist Farewell To Arms Gamer's Day Daily Dose
Whomp Wiley! Truly Addicted! Truly Hardcore! Conqueror Vanquisher
Destroyer World Warrior Trusty Sidearm Pack Rat Valued Customer
Shop A Holic Last Man Standing Survivor Hard Rock Heavy Metal
Speed Metal Fantastic 9 Fully Unloaded Blue Bomber Eco Fighter
Marathon Fight Quick Draw G Quick Draw C Quick Draw S Quick Draw H
Quick Draw J Quick Draw P Quick Draw T Quick Draw M Quick Draw X

@CrashMan, how many games will be released for PS3 in 2008? can you say a number? How many games, which AREN`T annouced for PS3 yet already in developement, do you KNOW?
What 3rd party DOES NOT support PS3? You are really know NOT much about PS3 and games on it. So, STOP that bullshit about 3rd parties not supporting PS3.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

I didn't say 3rd parties don't support the PS3, I said LAST gen most of their resources went to PS2 games. Not the norm for multi platform games is first a 360 dev the port to PS3.

Sony is losing exclusives and there is a piece of hardware on the market far outpacing it in userbase. How can you POSSIBLY say this generation is anything like the last? Its the exact opposite.



I am a Gauntlet Adventurer.

I strive to improve my living conditions by hoarding gold, food, and sometimes keys and potions. I love adventure, fighting, and particularly winning - especially when there's a prize at stake. I occasionally get lost inside buildings and can't find the exit. I need food badly. What Video Game Character Are You?

Mega Man 9 Challenges: 74%

Waltz Tango Jitterbug Bust a move Headbanging
Bunny Hop Mr. Trigger Happy Double Trouble Mr. Perfect Invincible
Almost Invincible No Coffee Break Air Shoes Mega Diet Encore
Peacekeeper Conservationist Farewell To Arms Gamer's Day Daily Dose
Whomp Wiley! Truly Addicted! Truly Hardcore! Conqueror Vanquisher
Destroyer World Warrior Trusty Sidearm Pack Rat Valued Customer
Shop A Holic Last Man Standing Survivor Hard Rock Heavy Metal
Speed Metal Fantastic 9 Fully Unloaded Blue Bomber Eco Fighter
Marathon Fight Quick Draw G Quick Draw C Quick Draw S Quick Draw H
Quick Draw J Quick Draw P Quick Draw T Quick Draw M Quick Draw X

My commentS? Have I posted here before?

If you only want people who think the Ps3 will come out on top (a very small group of people) why not post it in Sony forums? Here it will just be the cause of silly fanboism.

But hey, I'll try to tell you in a civil way.

Ok. First we take Japan. We take everything without Holiday sales first.

Now. I start out with simply taking away all sales from Ps2 in Japan, that were made from March 4th to 11 November 2000. Then we start comparing. Now, the Ps3 has a big advantage, since the Ps2 does not get any of its launch sales included.

Well, those sales are 3.3M. Source: http://vgchartz.com/hwtable.php?cons%5B%5D=PS2&reg%5B%5D=Japan&start=36590&end=36842. This info is not relevant to the math further on.

Okay. Then we start out, shall we.

Ps2: 11 November 2000 to 26th January 2002. Total sales: 4.5M. Source: http://vgchartz.com/hwtable.php?cons%5B%5D=PS2&reg%5B%5D=Japan&start=36842&end=37283

Ps3: 11 November 2006 to 26th January 2008. Total sales: 1.8M. Souce: http://vgchartz.com/hwtable.php?cons%5B%5D=PS3&reg%5B%5D=Japan&start=39040&end=39474

Total sales difference for Japan: Ps2 leads with 2.7M, even though it had a great disadvantage! Incredible, huh?

I'll now post this, and continue on my next post, because my internet connection is really bad right now, so too much writing means it will be unable to write more.







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