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lilbroex said:

Nintendo’s Reggie Fils-Aime recently spoke to Kotaku about the upcoming Wii U console. He touched up on several aspects of the console and its online connectivity. For example, Fils-Aime said that as soon as players turn on the Wii U, Miiverse will show up (provided users are connected online), and will show what your friends are doing, what games they are playing etc. That’s the “start screen” of the console, the first screen players will see — which is a radical departure from the start screens we see these days.

The start screen in Miiverse will display what your friends are up to, what games they are playing, and if you have the game, you can join in. With the new Nintendo TVii, you can also see which movies your Miiverse friends are watching, according to Reggie. To get to the menu or play a game, you simply hit the “Start” button.

Miiverse will be integrated into Wii U games (it’s optional, though). Reggie gives the example of New Super Mario Bros U, where players walk through the world map and can see messages and hints left by other players.

On the topic of Nintendo Network and the Wii U eShop online store, Reggie didn’t give any specific details, but did say, “We have spent a lot of time and invested a lot of money to get our connected experiences right”.

Finally, when it comes to Friend Codes, which is quite frankly the worst online friend system ever made, Reggie offered some hope. “We’ve heard the community feedback on friend codes and we’re making it dramatically easier for you to connect with your friend”. It’s nice to hear that they’ll make it “dramatically easier” than Friend Codes, but then again, that’s not so hard — it cannot possible be worse than the Friend Code system we’re using today.

http://wiiudaily.com/2012/09/wii-u-friend-codes-and-miiverse/


Friend codes weren't necessarily that bad of a system, the problem was that they should have been associated to a particular Mii and reusable across all games. Essentially, it should have been (almost) like an alphanumeric phone number per Mii ... There are benefits to this kind of strategy because everyone could end up having the alias they want, and if there is a conflict in names in a game you can append the region to differentiate between the two.



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KylieDog said:
blkfish92 said:
Seriously they just need to copy xbox and ps by using usernames, what other way can they take??


Friend shapes!

 

Add me: Circle, Circle, Square, Triangle, Rectangle , Star.


Bro I almost feel like they would do something like that lolol



           

I just want them to remove the friend codes, that's seriously all I want.



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blkfish92 said:
Seriously they just need to copy xbox and ps by using usernames, what other way can they take??

Exactly. Although I appreciate Nintendo's innovation, sometimes it feels like they overcomplicate things.

All this Miiverse is nice and all, but it won't mean anything if you can't add or invite someone you see online with just one press of a button like in XBL. When I play on XBL things just feel as though how they should be, but only when I go back to the Wii or 3DS do I realise how good XBL really is for online gaming/interaction.

Seriously Nintendo, just get rid of the friend codes altogether and put in usernames. PLEASE!!!



 

UltimateUnknown said:
blkfish92 said:
Seriously they just need to copy xbox and ps by using usernames, what other way can they take??

Exactly. Although I appreciate Nintendo's innovation, sometimes it feels like they overcomplicate things.

All this Miiverse is nice and all, but it won't mean anything if you can't add or invite someone you see online with just one press of a button like in XBL. When I play on XBL things just feel as though how they should be, but only when I go back to the Wii or 3DS do I realise how good XBL really is for online gaming/interaction.

Seriously Nintendo, just get rid of the friend codes altogether and put in usernames. PLEASE!!!


It's such a simple fix too, no hard work or anything. They just need to do it lol.



           

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Can't wait to hear more about Miiverse and Nintendo's online plans. We shouldn't have to wait too much longer.



UltimateUnknown said:
blkfish92 said:
Seriously they just need to copy xbox and ps by using usernames, what other way can they take??

Exactly. Although I appreciate Nintendo's innovation, sometimes it feels like they overcomplicate things.

All this Miiverse is nice and all, but it won't mean anything if you can't add or invite someone you see online with just one press of a button like in XBL. When I play on XBL things just feel as though how they should be, but only when I go back to the Wii or 3DS do I realise how good XBL really is for online gaming/interaction.

Seriously Nintendo, just get rid of the friend codes altogether and put in usernames. PLEASE!!!

With how many odd spellings and numbers there are in most gaming usernames due to uniqueness issues, how is a entering in a friend code substantially different than entering in a username?

I agree that they need other ways to allow people to add friends, but I also think that they need to do this in a way that is managed through parental controlls. The most restricted version would be no friends, followed by friend codes only, then allow adding of individuals tied to you through friend codes (ie you have a friend who gave you their friend code so you can add anyone who gave them their friend code), then friends of friends, and finally open discovery.

With an approach like this the average parent of an 8 year old can feel comfortable that their children are only playing with family members and their young friends online, while teenagers may have a greater ability to make online friends, and an adult can adjust their settings to a level they feel most comfortable with.

 

The reason this is so important for Nintendo is because, while there have been several incidents of sexual predators on XBox Live that haven't impacted Microsoft's image, people will expect a greater level of safety from any service Nintendo provides.

 

Edit: I also thought of an additional way to add friends ... allow people to join groups, some of which may be closed others entirely open. Hypothetically speaking, ioi could create a gamrconnect group that anyone could join and play games with other people in the group.



I thought the whole issue was that users had to enter in codes for all their friends for every game. I would imagine the system that is being used would be similar to the 3DS system where you can enter codes, or add them automatically during multiplayer.



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HappySqurriel said:
UltimateUnknown said:
blkfish92 said:
Seriously they just need to copy xbox and ps by using usernames, what other way can they take??

Exactly. Although I appreciate Nintendo's innovation, sometimes it feels like they overcomplicate things.

All this Miiverse is nice and all, but it won't mean anything if you can't add or invite someone you see online with just one press of a button like in XBL. When I play on XBL things just feel as though how they should be, but only when I go back to the Wii or 3DS do I realise how good XBL really is for online gaming/interaction.

Seriously Nintendo, just get rid of the friend codes altogether and put in usernames. PLEASE!!!

With how many odd spellings and numbers there are in most gaming usernames due to uniqueness issues, how is a entering in a friend code substantially different than entering in a username?

I agree that they need other ways to allow people to add friends, but I also think that they need to do this in a way that is managed through parental controlls. The most restricted version would be no friends, followed by friend codes only, then allow adding of individuals tied to you through friend codes (ie you have a friend who gave you their friend code so you can add anyone who gave them their friend code), then friends of friends, and finally open discovery.

With an approach like this the average parent of an 8 year old can feel comfortable that their children are only playing with family members and their young friends online, while teenagers may have a greater ability to make online friends, and an adult can adjust their settings to a level they feel most comfortable with.

 

The reason this is so important for Nintendo is because, while there have been several incidents of sexual predators on XBox Live that haven't impacted Microsoft's image, people will expect a greater level of safety from any service Nintendo provides.

 

Edit: I also thought of an additional way to add friends ... allow people to join groups, some of which may be closed others entirely open. Hypothetically speaking, ioi could create a gamrconnect group that anyone could join and play games with other people in the group.

The point isn't to do with typing in friend codes. It's about being able to add/invite people you see online as friends without having to contact them, get their FCs and then having to type it in, etc to add them. Plus I think most people would want to have some kind of name represent them online than a number.

When you play on XBL, you can just invite people you saw in your previous games (ones you may have liked playing with) with just one click of a button. This process is almost near impossible on the games I have played on the Wii and 3DS. I don't know if this is a game to game thing on the Nintendo platforms, but this system is built into XBL itself, rather than just the individual games, which is what Nintendo should have.



 

UltimateUnknown said:

The point isn't to do with typing in friend codes. It's about being able to add/invite people you see online as friends without having to contact them, get their FCs and then having to type it in, etc to add them. Plus I think most people would want to have some kind of name represent them online than a number.

When you play on XBL, you can just invite people you saw in your previous games (ones you may have liked playing with) with just one click of a button. This process is almost near impossible on the games I have played on the Wii and 3DS. I don't know if this is a game to game thing on the Nintendo platforms, but this system is built into XBL itself, rather than just the individual games, which is what Nintendo should have.


Yes its very easy to add friends on XBox Live which is (indirectly) one of the reasons Nintendo didn't take this approach ...

A large portion of the harassment and dangers that exist in services like XBox live come from people being able to add you to their friends list at a touch of a button. A sexual predator hears the voice of an 11 year old on the other end of voice chat can simply add him to his friends list and spend the next several weeks/months building trust so he can abuse him.

I agree that the current system is too difficult, and I think Nintendo needs to have multiple settings to free up gamers to choose how they want to interact with people online, but I understand why Nintendo is so cautious. One of the biggest markets for Nintendo is families and they want a system that is used by everyone in the household; even if it isn't deserved, and even if the problem is 10 times worse on other services, if Nintendo's online service gets the reputation for being a sexual predator playground due to a couple of high profile cases this really works against Nintendo.