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uno on 15 September 2012

I look forward to a touchscreen remote control hubular device.



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pokoko on 15 September 2012

It sounds pretty cool, well above what I had expected from Nintendo, but I buy consoles to play games. The reason I have ALL my original gaming systems, all the way back to the Atari 2600, is that I don't shorten their lifespans by leaving them on forever. Watching TV through my console is the last thing in the world I care about.



Dodece on 15 September 2012
dahuman said:
Dodece said:
@dahuman

Tablets, Tablets, We don't need no stinking Tablets. Have you forgotten that the 360 can be operated via voice, or with simple hand gestures. I literally don't need any controller to watch movies on my 360. Your extolling this all as being a virtue. When it is entirely superfluous, and may in practice be counter productive. That controller isn't very practical at all. It is a large, requires two hands to use, and must be referenced via the eyes.

That controller is just a lot of needless clutter. Who wants to use a interface to watch movies that requires the use of both hands. Plus requires you to look at it. When standard television remotes can be operated by feel, and the same goes for standard game controllers. The input is basically simultaneous. Where as the Wii U controller is going to be more time consuming.

It all comes across as a device forcibly justifying its own existence. That screen is just getting in the way of what is already a seamless experience. What Nintendo needs to be doing is using that interface for video manipulation at a more profound level. Children should be using it to do math problems while viewing educational programing, and adults should be using it to play games overlaid on top of television shows.

We don't need a more complicated television remote. If that is the only case being made. Then it shows that Nintendo is just copying everyone else. Worse it seems like they are straying from one of the cooler ideas that they had going for them. Namely that you could play games, and watch television at the same time. I mean the 360 can still run live in the background. So why can't the machine play games, and stream movies at the same time. It is a newer device after all.

There's absolutely good video control on the tablet in its default included package, if you've ever used a touch device before, you'd know media is the one thing that touch control excels at. It also has a mic so I wouldn't rule out voice control in the future either ^_-b

Video control works well when your looking at the tablet. You see that is the problem I am pointing out. You have to avert your gaze from the television screen to use the tablet to control what is happening on the screen. That is immersion breaking. When your engrossed in a film you don't want to be looking away at something else. If you need to pause for some reason you want to do it at that instant so you don't miss anything. It isn't the end of the world, but it is more inconvenient. You don't want to have to be doing something else when your watching something on your big screen.

Tell me truthfully are you at all confident that you could use that touchscreen without turning your attention away from your television. That is the difference between a voice, or tactile interface, and a visual interface. You don't need your eyes to use other interfaces. If none of this is sinking in for you. Think about trying to drive a automobile in this way. Would you feel safe without that tactile interface.

As for your commentary on voice control. Anyone can extrapolate outward. I wouldn't rule out a three dimensional spatial interface for the 360 either. After all it has the Kinect, and software improvements may allow for something like that. What is your point exactly. Why not limit ourselves to discussing what Nintendo presented to the public. Besides I highly doubt it will happen, because Nintendo doesn't like to pay for licensing, and since I have heard jack squat about the company investing in that kind of software. Chances are pretty damn small. Unless the technology becomes so ubiquitous that Nintendo cannot afford to not have it in their console.

Anyway the PS3 seems to be doing perfectly fine without it. Are you arguing that Nintendo will suffer for not having it?



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richardhutnik on 15 September 2012
dahuman said:

That's the most social rich and best implementation of video media service I've yet seen on any console so far but it seems nobody is really talking about it. I thought the multi-circle UI is super cool, why is nobody talking about this?

It's Nintendo's answer to SmartGlass (or whatever Apple product you want to take a shot at).  For me, I have little use for it, as I don't watch TV.  I am more interest in the WiiU video conferencing actually.



dahuman on 15 September 2012
Dodece said:
dahuman said:
Dodece said:
@dahuman

Tablets, Tablets, We don't need no stinking Tablets. Have you forgotten that the 360 can be operated via voice, or with simple hand gestures. I literally don't need any controller to watch movies on my 360. Your extolling this all as being a virtue. When it is entirely superfluous, and may in practice be counter productive. That controller isn't very practical at all. It is a large, requires two hands to use, and must be referenced via the eyes.

That controller is just a lot of needless clutter. Who wants to use a interface to watch movies that requires the use of both hands. Plus requires you to look at it. When standard television remotes can be operated by feel, and the same goes for standard game controllers. The input is basically simultaneous. Where as the Wii U controller is going to be more time consuming.

It all comes across as a device forcibly justifying its own existence. That screen is just getting in the way of what is already a seamless experience. What Nintendo needs to be doing is using that interface for video manipulation at a more profound level. Children should be using it to do math problems while viewing educational programing, and adults should be using it to play games overlaid on top of television shows.

We don't need a more complicated television remote. If that is the only case being made. Then it shows that Nintendo is just copying everyone else. Worse it seems like they are straying from one of the cooler ideas that they had going for them. Namely that you could play games, and watch television at the same time. I mean the 360 can still run live in the background. So why can't the machine play games, and stream movies at the same time. It is a newer device after all.

There's absolutely good video control on the tablet in its default included package, if you've ever used a touch device before, you'd know media is the one thing that touch control excels at. It also has a mic so I wouldn't rule out voice control in the future either ^_-b

Video control works well when your looking at the tablet. You see that is the problem I am pointing out. You have to avert your gaze from the television screen to use the tablet to control what is happening on the screen. That is immersion breaking. When your engrossed in a film you don't want to be looking away at something else. If you need to pause for some reason you want to do it at that instant so you don't miss anything. It isn't the end of the world, but it is more inconvenient. You don't want to have to be doing something else when your watching something on your big screen.

Tell me truthfully are you at all confident that you could use that touchscreen without turning your attention away from your television. That is the difference between a voice, or tactile interface, and a visual interface. You don't need your eyes to use other interfaces. If none of this is sinking in for you. Think about trying to drive a automobile in this way. Would you feel safe without that tactile interface.

As for your commentary on voice control. Anyone can extrapolate outward. I wouldn't rule out a three dimensional spatial interface for the 360 either. After all it has the Kinect, and software improvements may allow for something like that. What is your point exactly. Why not limit ourselves to discussing what Nintendo presented to the public. Besides I highly doubt it will happen, because Nintendo doesn't like to pay for licensing, and since I have heard jack squat about the company investing in that kind of software. Chances are pretty damn small. Unless the technology becomes so ubiquitous that Nintendo cannot afford to not have it in their console.

Anyway the PS3 seems to be doing perfectly fine without it. Are you arguing that Nintendo will suffer for not having it?

what you are saying makes no sense, anytime you stop to fast forward or change content in any media would break your immersion, including actually using voice command :P even when you want to pause with a remote, you'd sometimes still be looking at it, it makes no difference what you use when talking about your immersion breaking situation. also, why would you be using your Wii U while driving? are you nuts?

I'm not saying the PS3 or 360 are bad, they are just not as streamlined, it doesn't take much to be able to tell that the Wii U has a better integration compared to the other 2 currently.



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osed125 on 15 September 2012

This will not work in my country so it really doesn't matter to me :p



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the2real4mafol on 15 September 2012

This is the first video, i've seen on it. I guess the general focus was on the console and games instead

EDIT: looks good, is it free with the nintendo network?



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DanneSandin on 16 September 2012

I'd so use it if it were available here in EU!!! Bring it over here!!!



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theRepublic on 16 September 2012

As far as I can tell, I will be using this primarily for Netflix. Since the Wii already does that, I am not all that excited. The sports feature might be something I use, but until I get my hands on it I won't know for sure.



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jlrx on 16 September 2012
dahuman said:

That's the most social rich and best implementation of video media service I've yet seen on any console so far but it seems nobody is really talking about it. I thought the multi-circle UI is super cool, why is nobody talking about this?


I am sure nobody is a gross generalization, as I am very hyped over Nintendo TVii