man-bear-pig said:
And yes, I'm being cereal. Why does no-one on this site take me cereal?! |
Because its pretty obvious that you never really were.
man-bear-pig said:
And yes, I'm being cereal. Why does no-one on this site take me cereal?! |
Because its pretty obvious that you never really were.
man-bear-pig said:
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It is a fact. 40 million is way to low for the Wii U. Your prediction is completely off.
SunofKratos said: Well if the consumers allways buy the cheapest consoel ect than why is Apple so succesfull with his over expensive i Phones? Price will have an impact for sure but not for all. There are many people willing to buy a console that cost 200 Dollars more. As you can see with the pS3. It was always the expensivst console of the market and yet it is the best selling home console yearly for the last three years. Thats also an fact. |
The iPhone demonstrates that $800 electronics devices are remarkably popular when sold for $200, and there is huge demand for games that are less technically advanced than the typical N64 game. If it wasn't for contract subsidies the iPhone would be far less popular than the cheap plastic smartphones that are typical sold on pay as you go plans.
the_dengle said: I agree, no way can Wii U sell 40 mil in Japan. Not even Monster Hunter can do that. 30 mil in Japan at most. Definitely not more than 35 mil. Maybe, absolutely not more than 37 mil in Japan alone, no ifs ands or buts. |
This is the best post this site has seen in weeks, Christ alive
man-bear-pig said:
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I'd be willing to bet my account that it will, in fact, sell more than 40 million but i don't like to make bets that take a long time.
40 is too low, the absolute bare minimum will be about half the Wii sales, or 50 mil. But IMO it will exceed 70.mil. Gone are the uncool purple hot mess of a preschool lunchbox GC days (though a darling to us hardcore), Nintendo consoles now fit in your living rooms w/o shame. It is a mainstream monster, and the "Wii fit" series alone will keep it strong combined with the hardcore & new fans gained. Obviously, I am playing to the loud minority by saying it will lose 30 mil (100 mil Wii sold to 70 Wii U) so even 70 mil is still a fairly conservative estimate.
Make no mistake, being a new product, virtually all alone (ps360 market is saturated + have "old" reputation) & guaranteed to be the most affordable yet again, should leave Ninty on top of the throne again. Microsoft cannibalized Sony's market and that trend will continue, but X8ox will be a $premium$ offering that will always be in 2nd place, like Sony handhelds.
it will not sell 40 million units! (in japan)
worldwide im expecting around 60-70m and hopefully hit the 100m margin (it is a long stretch, but with right choices and right support of games... why not?)
NintendoPie said: A fact is something that is true. That's a true statement, so it is a fact. |
Actually no. A fact is always true, correct. But a truth is not always a fact. A fact is something that can be objectively proven. A truth is just something that's true.
For example, let's say you're thinking of the color blue. While that may be true, it's not a fact. Because with modern technology, no one can prove what you're thinking about with a reasonable degree of accuracy and precision.
Jay520 said:
For example, let's say you're thinking of the color blue. While that may be true, it's not a fact. Because with modern technology, no one can prove what you're thinking about with a reasonable degree of accuracy and precision. |
Neither of the criteria you're laying out are true.
First, one cannot use an abstraction as fact except that in the abstraction itself must necessarily be true as an abstraction; you are not thinking of blue, you are thinking of an abstraction of blue, and that is a fact and a truth.
A fact is something which is real.
A truth is a fact that is known.
Unless you want to really argue about epistemology, I guess, in which case this shit is going ot get a lot more involved in the next couple of posts depending on your view on the limits and origins of human knowledge
A fact is something that has already happened. A prevision on something that will *probably* happen in the future is not yet a fact. It will be a fact when (and if) it happens.
On the wiiU sales 40M is objectively low, but it is also true that it will likely sell less than the wii by a fair amount, with a life cycle of the same lenght.