Prediction: Wii U will sell under 40 million units

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Jay520 said:

NintendoPie said:

A fact is something that is true. That's a true statement, so it is a fact.

Actually no. A fact is always true, correct. But a truth is not always a fact. A fact is something that can be objectively proven. A truth is just something that's true.

For example, let's say you're thinking of the color blue. While that may be true, it's not a fact. Because with modern technology, no one can prove what you're thinking about with a reasonable degree of accuracy and precision.

Neither of the criteria you're laying out are true.

First, one cannot use an abstraction as fact except that in the abstraction itself must necessarily be true as an abstraction; you are not thinking of blue, you are thinking of an abstraction of blue, and that is a fact and a truth.

A fact is something which is real.

A truth is a fact that is known.

Unless you want to really argue about epistemology, I guess, in which case this shit is going ot get a lot more involved in the next couple of posts depending on your view on the limits and origins of human knowledge