I think we need to get rid of all this one day banning people the moment they say something someone doesn't agree with. Sure, bans are helpful but surely a warning telling them what they are doing wrong and telling them to stop doing it is better. If they ignore the warnings (say up to 3 depending on what they are doing which will have to be something else that will need to be defined) then they get banned. If people keep getting warnings but stopping just before they are banned then you could obviously adjust the system slightly to make sure that they don't get away with it every time.

At the moment I think the system appears to be slightly too much one strike and your out for a day which is making people get annoyed and then coming back the next day more likely to post something bad about the mod that banned them and the person that reported them and it spirals out of control.

Pointing out others' faults is one thing, but if you're not contributing anything at all either to the community then you're not just complaining you're just outright whining.

spurge may be a hell of a spammer, but at the same time he's also contributed much to the community with his news threads. I'm even willing to bet you can take away gamrpoints or posts counts, it wouldn't change his love of making threads.


VGC was a hell of a community back then (2007-2008). News, sales, and spam threads existed alongside each other.

It wasn't too much problem then, why is it now?

It's not that there's an overwhelming amount of spams, but in reality there's actually just less news/sales.
We are at the end of a generation where we can all pretty much agree on each console's sales, and its games. There really isn't much to talk about anymore. I mean you can only discuss/debate so much about it.

As you can see, Wii U is sparking some discussions.

So why don't we all just chill?

On-Topic: All I'm asking of mods is consistency, and have humor (which new mods seem to be showing).

Just re-read this and I realised how ridiculous it sounds. When I was saying about a one strike system I meant that that is what it appears to be to the average person. They have no way of knowing why someone was banned because they might not have any reason to believe that they had been warned before for behaviour. If there was a way for people to see warnings put on a user then I think you would get less of these people complaining when someone that has seemingly only done one thing is banned because they would be able to see that said person has been warned for similar things in the past.

The idea about more warnings still stands though as I was talking to Radish and it sounds like it is one warning then ban.

Some crap threads are just crap. I mean, we can have silly threads/joke threads or threads where people just post stuff (like the age-old "what song are you listening to") thread, but then we have "what is slutty about the user above you," which A: makes no damn sense and B: is just people shouting random crap at each other, the epitome of pointless noise.

I tend to make jokey/spammy/marginally-on-topic posts for humorous purposes as the mood strikes me, and this is not a bad thing, but whole threads devoted to it are just going to take up space and present nothing for anyone to really enjoy except the few users participating therein.

So let me get this straight. You guys are mostly against

1) Vanity posting.

2) Attention whoring.

3) Point whoring.

Ultimately. Am I right?

So ok, I've gone back and read most of the posts from the past day and I've talked with happyPhil whom encouraged me to come here and voice my opinion. I don't really know if I have an opinion about the mods (I actually like most of them on a personal level - well, as personal as you can get on a internet forum ;)), but I'd like to chip in with my thoughts on spamming and the sort.

I understand why Carl is upset with all the spam threads (one word game and such things). But I also understand why those exists. They have the same function as the mafia game here. It's a social thing. I've grown quite fond of certain peeps here, so I can relate to why people like to participate in spam threads.

What we need to do, as a community, is to find a solution. I guess I'm spamming from time to time - and in this particular case that would get solved with a "Like"-button. Easy. And regarding spam threads; do what others already have suggested; move them to a sub forum and don't give points for participating. Also, make certain forums invisible unless you're logged in and member. It's perhaps not the best solution, but it's a start.

Points really don't matter anymore, and i myself am guilty of attention whoring on a few occasions. How would you quantify "vanity posting?" If that's what you mean by posts lacking in substance except as to fill space, then yes. "User Above You" threads are the embodiment of the latter point, and as a group, we tolerate them, though barely.

I've trolled in the past and I've never been moderated. You just have to have ties... kidding, guys! Kidding!!

So what spam do you never tolerate (apart from the obvious sales frauders that pop up)? 

Also, there are two topics here: 1) Spam posts that are ban-worthy, and 2) Lame posts that degrade the content in the forum, that are not bannable.

Which one are you more active against?

I totally agree with you there.