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How is the VGChartz mod team doing?

It's doing a great job. 299 32.97%
 
It's doing okay. 143 15.77%
 
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Carl2291 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I don't read the Xbox Empire thread but according to JayWood's post that didn't seem to be the case in that instance but yeah going into a thread that's going along fine and proclaiming "I AM THE MOD HEED ME" is unnecessary and damaging to the discussion.

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Conegamer said:

Indeed; Jay summarized the scenario pretty nicely. Just saying anything to defend yourself is bad for sure.

I wasnt talking about JayWoods post regarding shinobi, I was talking about Hynads original post that started the conversation. He feels that some of us (I assume) are flexing too much muscle when it doesnt need to be done. The bolded part more than anything.

Hynad said:

Some of the new mods have the tendency of feeling the need to tell people they're in power. Even going to the extent of pre-emptively calling out people over things that haven't happened yet. It derails the threads needlessly, and comes off as nothing more than them flailing their "I'm the boss" flag. We don't need to be reminded that they can lock a thread or moderate people if it degenerates. We all know there are mods on VGC. I guess some will argue that it is all done to make sure the tone of the threads remain civil and whatnot, but that's not the way it comes across, based on the reaction of some users here.

Whilst true, it's always nice to hear about examples else there's not much we can discuss. I think I know what he'll mention though...but let's hear what he has to say about it. Can't recall this being the case for anyone when it's been needless, at any rate.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

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I didn't dig back every examples I could. But here are some. Of course, I don't have much faith that it will be met any other way than with excuses and "explanations" to belittle the point I'm bringing forth. But since no examples were given so far, I dug up some to show what I mean. 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6573721

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6574544

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6579185

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6578908

 

I understand some of them can be jokes. But when it's recurring, it becomes just as I said earlier in the thread.



Hynad said:

I didn't dig back every examples I could. But here are some. Of course, I don't have much faith that it will be met any other way than with excuses and "explanations" to belittle the point I'm bringing forth. But since no examples were giving so far, I dug up some to show what I mean. 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6573721

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6574544

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6579185

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6578908

 

I understand some of them can be jokes. But when it's recurring, it becomes just as I said earlier in the thread.


I do actually really like starcrafts approach of trying to stop the problems before they happen.  His jokes about banning may rub people the wrong way, especially people that have banned by him, but overall I like the approach.  

Only thing I would say is maybe not be so flippant about it?  However, it is hardly an issue i would personally make a stink about.  



Hynad said:

I didn't dig back every examples I could. But here are some. Of course, I don't have much faith that it will be met any other way than with excuses and "explanations" to belittle the point I'm bringing forth. But since no examples were given so far, I dug up some to show what I mean. 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6573721

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6574544

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6579185

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6578908

I understand some of them can be jokes. But when it's recurring, it becomes just as I said earlier in the thread.

The difficulty comes of course when posters cannot get the same sense of context that mods do, which is understandable.

Taking these posts (to the best of my recollection, which is not perfect) for example:

Post 1 - A report was made, and intrinsic and imaginedvl were clearly getting frustrated with eachother

Post 2 - This is a poor example of pre-empting trouble, as it had well and truly began. We were barely 15 minutes into the MS conference, and 3-5 posters were clearly out to ridicule anything Microsoft could achieve. In the wake of that, multiple posters were banned. Indeed, one poster appears to have posted at the same time as me "lol indiebox."

Post 3 - A report was made. I responded with a joke (the picture) to make people aware of my presence. If people feel it is not appropriate to use these jokes, thats a discussion that can be had - thus far people seem to have mixed opinions. As Cone pointed out, mods are posters as well, we have senses of humour like everyone else.

Post 4 - I had literally just moderated someone - this was not an attempt at pre-empting anything, but a warning for those who remained unmoderated.

 

In general, I don't entirely disagree with your point. It is quite possible for moderaters to be overbearing where no trouble exists. The difficulty is, that you cannot know the context that may be available to moderators - which is understandable. As a result, none of the posts you've linked represent examples of the argument you're attempting to make.



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starcraft said:
Hynad said:

I didn't dig back every examples I could. But here are some. Of course, I don't have much faith that it will be met any other way than with excuses and "explanations" to belittle the point I'm bringing forth. But since no examples were given so far, I dug up some to show what I mean. 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6573721

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6574544

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6579185

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6578908

I understand some of them can be jokes. But when it's recurring, it becomes just as I said earlier in the thread.

The difficulty comes of course when posters cannot get the same sense of context that mods do, which is understandable.

Taking these posts (to the best of my recollection, which is not perfect) for example:

Post 1 - A report was made, and intrinsic and imaginedvl were clearly getting frustrated with eachother

Post 2 - This is a poor example of pre-empting trouble, as it had well and truly began. We were barely 15 minutes into the MS conference, and 3-5 posters were clearly out to ridicule anything Microsoft could achieve. In the wake of that, multiple posters were banned. Indeed, one poster appears to have posted at the same time as me "lol indiebox."

Post 3 - A report was made. I responded with a joke (the picture) to make people aware of my presence. If people feel it is not appropriate to use these jokes, thats a discussion that can be had - thus far people seem to have mixed opinions. As Cone pointed out, mods are posters as well, we have senses of humour like everyone else.

Post 4 - I had literally just moderated someone - this was not an attempt at pre-empting anything, but a warning for those who remained unmoderated.

 

In general, I don't entirely disagree with your point. It is quite possible for moderaters to be overbearing where no trouble exists. The difficulty is, that you cannot know the context that may be available to moderators - which is understandable. As a result, none of the posts you've linked represent examples of the argument you're attempting to make.


And this is exactly what I expected from you. An excuse for everything. At least, you know how it comes off. So maybe we won't see you shove it down people's throat as much from now on. 

Moving on.



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Hynad said:

And this is exactly what I expected from you. An excuse for everything. At least, you know how it comes off. So maybe we won't see you shove it down people's throat as much from now on. 

Moving on.

Ahhh I see. I took you at your word that the content of your post represented your opinion.

If you simply wanted to say 'I think you're a sad person who's priority in life is going on a power trip on a niche forum' it would have saved us both time!



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starcraft said:
Hynad said:
 

And this is exactly what I expected from you. An excuse for everything. At least, you know how it comes off. So maybe we won't see you shove it down people's throat as much from now on. 

Moving on.

Ahhh I see. I took you at your word that the content of your post represented your opinion.

If you simply wanted to say 'I think you're a sad person who's priority in life is going on a power trip on a niche forum' it would have saved us both time!


But of course you'll find an excuse to everything, Starlord. It's at you that the finger is pointed at. 

That is why the matter had to be brought here. Where other mods will get to see what it's about, and either discuss about it here, among other mods via your group chat, or to you directly.

I've seen how you argue when people don't align with you, or when they point out something negative about you. It's always people's fault if you don't come across as the way you "intended". It's us who don't understand, not you who doesn't spell things out, or act, properly... 

In any case, there's not really any point arguing this with you. You're not in a position where you can be impartial. I explained the way it comes across to a lot of people. The rest isn't in my hands. This thread is to talk about our concerns about the mod team. I've supported that team quite a lot in the past. So take this however you want.



Hynad said:

But of course you'll find an excuse to everything, Starlord. It's at you that the finger is pointed at. 

That is why the matter had to be brought here. Where other mods will get to see what it's about, and either discuss about it here, among other mods via your group chat, or to you directly.

I've seen how you argue when people don't align with you, or when they point out something negative about you. It's always people's fault if you don't come across as the way you "intended". It's us who don't understand, not you who doesn't spell things out, or act, properly... 

In any case, there's not really any point arguing this with you. You're not in a position where you can be impartial. I explained the way it comes across to a lot of people. The rest isn't in my hands. This thread is to talk about our concerns about the mod team. I've supported that team quite a lot in the past. So take this however you want.

Perhaps thats all true.

I am more inclined to think this is about me not banning people when you PM me asking me to do so.

But then as you said, I am not in a position to be impartial.



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starcraft said:

Perhaps thats all true.

I am more inclined to think this is about me not banning people when you PM me asking me to do so.

But then as you said, I am not in a position to be impartial.


See? You're doing it again. It's not you. It's the others. 

PM's asking you to ban people? Are you for real? You seem to confuse reports with PMs. Or the rare occurences where we PM each other once [after] I've made a report, explaining things. So is this a petty attempt to turn this around on me? 

As far as I'm concerned, I've explained the issues I have with you. It's not the end of the world. Up to you to take it however you want.



Hynad said:
starcraft said:

Perhaps thats all true.

I am more inclined to think this is about me not banning people when you PM me asking me to do so.

But then as you said, I am not in a position to be impartial.

See? You're doing it again. It's not you. It's the others. 

PM's asking you to ban people? Are you for real? You seem to confuse reports with PMs. Or the rare occurences where we PM each other once [after] I've made a report, explaining things. So is this a petty attempt to turn this around on me? 

As far as I'm concerned, I've explained the issues I have with you. It's not the end of the world. Up to you to take it however you want.

I am not sure what you want me to say Hynad.

You've openly declared that if I express any opinion that deviates from yours, you'll ignore it as my being unwilling to accept criticism, irrespective of evidence provided. Thats an out-and-out form on denialism. If you'll hear nothing I say, there is little point in saying anything to begin with.



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