$200 would not be selling at a loss from my analysis. They would make about $20 on each console.

I know I'm going to regret this but...

You do know that your analysis and reality don't need to be the same, right?

What does "need" to be the same? My analysis was based on real world retail prices. In true, it I was overestimating just to the more extreme ends.

In reality, everything Nintendo puts in the console will be wholesale assuming they don't manufacture it themselves. The real cost of what they pay will be far below $180, wih the given specs.

The only vairable I see here is the disc drive. We still don't know for certain what it is that they are using exactly.

The thing is you don't know the retail prices because we still don't know what's inside the console.

Do we know which chip ofthe R7xx family (if it's one of those) has been used to make WiiU's GPU? No. Then how can you know it's retail price?

Do you even know what fab process will they use to make those chips? The CPU will use 45nm, but what about the GPU? That also affects the price for each unit.

Do we know how much RAM will it have? No, only rumors suggesting it may be 1GB. But of what kind of RAM will it use? Consoles don't use the same kind of RAM that's used in PCs, DDR3. So, again, how can you know its retail price?

Have you taken into consideration costs like packaging, shipping, the cost of the storage, the margin for the stores (remember that those $200 includes the part that goes to the stores as a profit) and the millions that were invested in R&D to make it possible and that they also want back?

The thing is, as I said, that your analysis and reality don't need to be the same thing.

Actually I did take all of those things into consideration in my original analysis in this thread. Did you actually read what I wrote, or are you just denying it with no evidence of your own to the contraray?

There are the rumors of it having a lower powerd processor. So maybe it got a fairly decent GPU and an upscaled Wii CPU.

The GPU is probably the most expensive thing in the consle and a retail 4870 is 139 now. 1.5 GB of RAM wuold run about $20 retail. The controller we can assume is 30-40.

I say its possible.

Then, of course, there is the fact that everything they have will not only be custom built but also be part of a special deal with the given companies so they won't pay nearly as much to manufacture them as it would cost for someone like me to buy it retail.

I can them maybe spending $90 on the GPU in the console out of their own pocket. The RAM is probably high quality so I will keep 20 for that. 30 and ship the controller. 30-40 for the CPU.

That would put costs from them at $190.

Which one?

"The controller we can assume is 30-40", "1.5 GB of RAM wuold run about $20 retail"

Those are not analysis. Those are guesses.

And you still haven't answered my questions. Which GPU is the base model for the one on the WiiU? How is it going to be made? What kind of RAM will it use? How much does the propietary optical disc drive cost?

Yean, you really shouldn't have.

Indeed. Using logic when it's obvious that it's not going to work is always a bad idea.