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Another interesting quote from Frazier. Those expecting that Wii shortages would lead to 360 or PS3 may be wrong, instead leading to PS2 sales.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/347827_consolesales18.html

Sony, meanwhile, saw its older PlayStation 2 console come in third place, with 1.1 million units sold -- topping its newer but costlier PlayStation 3, which registered 798,000 units sold in the U.S. for the month.

That unlikely turn of events also can be attributed in part to supply shortages of the Nintendo Wii, NPD Group analyst Anita Frazier said in a statement accompanying the data. She said the PlayStation 2, rather than the Xbox 360 or PS3, was a popular option for some people who couldn't find a Wii during the holiday shopping season.



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That's an interesting point FJ.



Couple notes...

Wii, by NPD USA, is at 7.34 million in the USA in in its 14th month of recorded sales.

Despite the shortages, it continues to outpace PS2 by just over one month in the USA according to some research I just did in aligning the launches.  PS2 hit about 7.2 million in 15 months.  The comparison is fair as well - as at month 14/15 both consoles had two holidays, with the first being the launch holiday.

 

Xbox 360 by NPD USA is at ~9.1 million in the USA in 26 months of recorded sales.  That is about 30% faster then when Xbox reached the same amount, despite higher pricing and the RROD issues according to my research.  If 360 ends up with sales 30% greater than Xbox, even over the same truncated time frame (4.5 years vs. the 5.5 to 6.5 years for most consoles) then Xbox 360 will have N64 like numbers in the USA, and similar worldwide totals at least (a bit north of 30 million minimum).  As Xbox 360 becomes cheaper though, I imagine the system will outpace Xbox 360 faster.

 

PS3 by NPD USA is at ~3.245 million in its 14th month of recorded sales.  That puts it below both Gamecube and Xbox in the USA according to my research.  Interestingly, it had a nearly identical November to Xbox and GC in November number 2, but was ahead of GC and behind Xbox in December number 2.

 

As a rough guess for what NPD will report in January (four weeks) at this point I'd go with 360k-400k for Wii (supply), 220-260k for Xbox 360, and PS3  110k to 150k.  All consoles will be down from last year for the month, with PS3 still too expensive, Xbox 360 past its third Christmas, and Nintendo forced to divert huge supply to Japan for January to meet big demand from games and holidays (Wii Fit, Galaxy, and Brawl).  Brawl currently has ~600k+ preorders (not an official figure - my estimate) if the normal extrapolation factors from the prelim data are to believed (I'm a bit skeptical), but it should easily be the biggest debuting game in Japan for Wii since launch (at least 400k, I'd guess 700k - the preorders are literally four times higher in the sample data than Galaxy preorders ever were). 

 



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Dolla Dolla said:

System Dec. 2007 Annual 2007
PS3
2.56 M
DS 2.47 M

Something is wrong with this picture .....


 Wow



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

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outlawauron said:
Here is a nice little recap for everyone .....

December 2007:

WII RESIDENT EVIL: UMBRELLA CHRONICLES - 147,600
WII NIGHTS: JOURNEY OF DREAMS - 60,800

NDS MARIO PARTY DS - 385,700
NDS FINAL FANTASY XII: REVENANT WINGS - 117,200

PS3 CALL OF DUTY 4 - 522,000
PS3 UNCHARTED: DRAKE'S FORTUNE - 206,000
PS3 ROCK BAND - 174,000
PS3 THE ORANGE BOX - 56,500
PS3 TIMESHIFT - 25,000

360 MASS EFFECT - 401,000
360 ROCK BAND - 463,000

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Rough LTDs:

WII GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK - ~1.2 million
WII MARIO AND SONIC: OLYMPIC GAMES - ~940K
WII RESIDENT EVIL: UMBRELLA CHRONICLES - ~270K

NDS FINAL FANTASY XII: REVENANT WINGS - ~170K

360 MASS EFFECT - ~875K
360 ROCK BAND - ~775K
360 HD-DVD ADD ON - ~315K

PS3 CALL OF DUTY 4 - ~965K
PS3 UNCHARTED: DRAKE'S FORTUNE - ~325K
PS3 ROCK BAND - ~245K


And now a little NPD UT3 PS3 nugget......
Over 100k

9th best PS3 selling title.

61st best selling title in December

Ulala! So... doesn't this mean Uncharted is undertracked? ;).

The current US figures stand at 270.00~290.000 total copies sold.

But... if you add this to the November NPD sales figures for Uncharted it should be well above 300.000+

My oh, my lovely news ;)...



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CrazzyMan said:
The price doesn`t matter, when there is no games like MGS4, KZ2, R2, LBP, GT5, T6, FFXIII, WKS, GoW3.
IF all these games were available in 2007, PS3 would be selling on PAIR with Wii or even better.

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Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp

u guys all realize that this is simply NPD's estimates? they sample a number of retailers and then estimate from there? these aren't actual real numbers? they could be off by 10% and vg could be off by 10%, leading to over 20% discrepancy...



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp

@rukusa: At least it's lower than NPS says. NPD LTD (America) is for 5th of January, so it's 53k higher than Vgchartz number (vgchartz: 270k, NPD: 323k). And you have to add Canada sales also. Looks like Uncharted is around 25% lower than NPD data. It's interesting that ioi actually had Uncharted higher in November (still have even after correction) and maybe if he didn't change it he would be on spot with LTD for Uncharted.

Other PS3 games also seem to be lower on vgchartz than on NPD (data for December):
Cod4: vg - 237k, NPD - 522k
Rock Band: vg - 109k, NPD - 174k
Assasin's Creed: vg - 204k, NPD - no exact number but was outsold more than 2:1 by AC for Xbox360 (which sold 894k), so it sholud be around 400k
Guitar Hero 3: vg - 176k, no exact number but was outsold nearly 2:1 by GH3 for X360 (which sold 625k), so should be at least at 312k

With Canada differences will be even bigger.




kamil said:
@rukusa: At least it's lower than NPS says. NPD LTD (America) is for 5th of January, so it's 53k higher than Vgchartz number (vgchartz: 270k, NPD: 323k). And you have to add Canada sales also. Looks like Uncharted is around 25% lower than NPD data. It's interesting that ioi actually had Uncharted higher in November (still have even after correction) and maybe if he didn't change it he would be on spot with LTD for Uncharted.

Other PS3 games also seem to be lower on vgchartz than on NPD (data for December):
Cod4: vg - 237k, NPD - 522k
Rock Band: vg - 109k, NPD - 174k
Assasin's Creed: vg - 204k, NPD - no exact number but was outsold more than 2:1 by AC for Xbox360 (which sold 894k), so it sholud be around 400k
Guitar Hero 3: vg - 176k, no exact number but was outsold nearly 2:1 by GH3 for X360 (which sold 625k), so should be at least at 312k

With Canada differences will be even bigger.



Yeah, so I geuss this makes Uncharted almost 100.000 copies from passing the 1 million mark. Awesome!

I assume we can expect a correction or something, based on those figures.:)



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It warms my heart to see those DS numbers. Good PSP numbers also. Really wish the PSP would sell more software.