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supermario128 said:
Linkzmax said:
Mario, are you good at reading Stefl?


Well, I thought he was mafia last round until you said it was obvious he was vanilla townie. I wasn't sure what to think after that, but looking back, I should have stuck with my guts from the start. Stefl barely posts when he is mafia, and when he does it is often just to appear to be active. Saying something like he will re-read through the thread later and always be one step behind. Like I said, I am leaning town for him so far. Unless his posts drastically change that is how my view on him will stay.

To be fair, I had my reasons for calling him a townie. And he used to behave like that more when he was a VT than a power role or mafia.

But anyway, you don't think the bold is an accurate description of Stefl this round then?



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Linkzmax said:

 

But anyway, you don't think the bold is an accurate description of Stefl this round then?

 

I don't think so. While he is not extremely active he has posted enough for me to get a good read on him. The same can not be said in past rounds when he was mafia. I'm pretty confident about this one.




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Fair enough. I'm calling him town myself, just checking out your reasoning.



pezus said:
supermario128 said:
pezus said:

It's certainly interesting that you were the first to post as well, right after FF started the day. Did you get a notification in your QT?

I don't have a quick topic. Remember, I didn't get any link in my pm at all.  Also, would you rather I wait and post later next time? Since when did posting first indicate that someone was scum? Linkz was also online when the day started, but I didn't use that as a reason to say he was scum...

@Prof
You always say I am scum, even when we were both on the same scum team. However, I can assure you that I am not. So focus on other people. Thanks.

I'm going to say Pezus, Jo, Soleron, and Radish are mafia. It could also be that Prof is mafia while Soleron is 3rd party or vice versa. The only one I am pretty sure about is Pezus at the moment though. Like I said, Stefl is not mafia this game.

 

Mario, I must say this but you are goddamn irritating. Imagine how I feel when every round you are "pretty sure I am scum". Last round you were around 95 or 99% sure. I was town. This round you are pretty sure. Surely you should have figured out you read me wrong most of the time by now?

Ok, stefl is not mafia. I can say I suspect that as well. So we are two townies being pushed for a mislynch. 

Since you know you're town, you must have some information to show that Stefl is also town, right? Because unless information is involved, I'd be convinced without doubt in your position that Stef must be mafia.



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spurgeonryan said:
So defensive mantle. Is it alright if I do not trust you 100 percent? Jesus!

Excuse me if I am not willing to just insta lynch anyone off of something people say.

I see that you are stepping up today, but yesterday you were a wet noodle.

Neither was I a wet noodle yesterday, nor am I defensive. You need to know what defensive means.



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I'm doing work for my EPQ so I will be reading posts but there isn't much chance that I will making my own (besides this one)



Unless I am mistaken, there haven't been votals yet for this day?

FF, can you do the needful? Would be fine if Tadpole did it either.



c03n3nj0 said:
mantlepiecek said:

Where did you ask me, jo? Where did you ask hatmoza anyway? All you did was proceed to vote for Noctis.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4748850 

Here you go. That was before the meta-gaming that completely derailed the thread and took all my attention. 

And as for you, tell me how "I think j0 is scum, and I feel good about this because hatmoza thinks so too!" warrants a response? Hatmoza did not elaborate on his suspicions, and yet you used it as a back-up of your own. 

Having complete faith in anyone for no good reason is weird, mantlepiecek. You were buddying up bad. 

All right. I didn't actually address this post completely last time.

Bold1:

That's not what I said. I said I feel Jo is scum and hat thinks so too, so I feel good about Hat.

So yes, I didn't have complete faith in hat. However I saw his line of thinking, and felt he was town as a result. My sense has been good this game, I thought hat was town by his first few posts itself and he got killed night 1 itself, albeit for different reasons.

If I was buddying up bad why didn't you address it before, like others were?

I think soleron is town as well, my suspect list is now stefl, jo, one person whom I won't name. The fourth one I am not sure who he could be.

Here's my observation guys :

If Conj is scum,

Mario is town.

Zero is town.

Why? I am not going to say it yet. Unlike normal circumstances this is even more complicated.



zero129 said:
What do you mean by this?

I mean, some links to prove my old point (among many available)

Your style of play has been aggressive/ pretend noob.

Here you immediately attack prof for casting suspicion on you (ironically the same thing we've said for a while) http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4748526  and then shortly after continue an attack on hatmoza: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4748534

Apparently they were both connected as mafia who were going for an "easy target." Which means that you still use your noobiness as an excuse to make everyone slightly suspicious of you a threat. 

Later in day 1 you do this: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4748701. Now a lot of the suspects have changed. And they still have the same reasoning as before, attacking you for no good reason even though arguments were already made.

Your reply to my suspicion post was exactly like your replies to theirs: you turned around and attacked me, mentioning how you were an "easy target." 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4751611 -- Soleron has given you hints about changing this style of play, but you didn't acknowledge him. Instead argued with him about the importance of suspect lists:  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4752553 

Day has you quelled so far. is it because no one has attacked you?



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mantlepiecek said:

- snip jo's epic post -

So many things wrong with this post. You can't be town honestly if you actually ASSUMED my stance. You are scum conj.

You ASSUMED (lol) that I didn't want to give reasons for my suspicion?

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When day 2 comes along, you don't base your vote on the previous suspicions you had, but rather, on the fact that I did not confront you. This is because you yourself have realized that all those "suspicion" posts were just filler, and not actually a strong basis for suspicion.

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Err. How do you know my reasons? How do you think that I gave away all my reasoning for voting you in Linkz's post? The fact that you FoS'd me twice itself is what started my investigation on you.

 

THE FACT is conj, YOU aren't town. BECAUSE YOU ARE SOFT. Get it?

What town member assumes my reasoning? What town doesn't get suspicious of others when someone else is supsicious of them? Unless they are proven innocent, in this case you already know I am town. And hence why you were so lax in your investigation.

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In that post you just made, you ignored the fact that I mentioned that there WAS suspicion on me. You also ignored the fact that I was discussing my relationship with links and yoshi while doing so. Again, it leads me to believe you are basing your "suspicion" on circumstancial evidence, hoping that there's dirt on me that you don't have to point out. That dirt being the process of elimination between me, yoshi and links.

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(1) The acknowledgement of suspicion residing on you is not equal to acknowledging hat and my suspicion, especially when we were the only ones who were very vocal about it. I said it twice, at least, and your ignorance of it is proof of you being scum conj.

(2) Your ignorance of both your own suspicion on me (you were suspicious of me after the radish incident, which you seemed to conviniently forget, and apparently it didn't struck your mind that I could be mafia till I voted you, hilarious) is proof to me, you were the best lynch we could have on day 1, and are even now.

Mantle, you do realize you replied to my post with  whole wad of nothing, right?

@ Bold. So you are calling me scum because I assumed? What? So a townie isn't allowed to be smart? 

And yet you clarify that I was right with the double FoS I linked to. You know I assumed that was your base of suspicion? Because it was our only interaction of day 1. You did not bring up the reason for suspicion at all during the day, just said you were suspicious. If I didn't guess that's where it started than I must be an idiot. 

(1) Um, the fact that you and hatmoza were the ones who were vocal about it kinda means that when I mention the suspicion on me, I had the two of you in mind. 

(2) Yes, I think you are mafia because I say you slipped. Either a really bad player or a mafia would try to take advantage of a situation to vote someone. As i showed in my post, you're suspicions on me have been relying on the situations. First you use hatmoza, then slip in the the suspicion lists going around. Finally, there's nothing, so you decided to change it up and try to use the fact that I've been ignoring your simplistic posts (I'm talking about the response to links). Mantle, I'm not going to respond to weak posts like that that hold no content. You have played mafia long enough to realize that they don't do anything. If you want some traction with your suspicions, you actually try to bring someting substantial to the table, something which you have been keen on not doing for the entirety of the game. 

Also, you chose to ignore all of my arguments on you. Instead you tried to find out why I'm scum with even more weak reasoning. 

Guys, mantle is obvious mafia. I... just can't believe he would use this reasoning as a coherent town. 



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