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spurgeonryan said:
Hi ya'll it is the weekend and I am just not on much. But I have read most of the last few pages on my phone.

I will seay even thought it will make soleron mad that Nocits lurked last game as well. Seems to be his thing to do as Scum. Lurkers were scum last game. Big time! If Morenoingrato does not like a role or what is going on he will lurk as well from what I remembver. It is not a tell, it is just something he does because I think he has not much to say.
Although I think last game NoCtis did not have a reason for lurking, while the games before he did have a reason.


@Pezzus

Remember that NoCtis stopped lurking when it suited him lat game. He seems to lurk, but I tthink he is just waiting for the right time to post.

Noctis was town last round.



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Let me remind people that this is Zero's a Yoshiya's first game (at least to my knowledge) don't let their warped view on the game and how it's played sidetrack you too much. We've all been rookies at one point and eventually learned to eliminate all misconceptions that come with the rookie experience.



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Stefl1504 said:
Yoshiya said:
theprof00 said:
Radish i feel is a lynchable target for that "slip".
Mantle though, is lynchable for considering radish lynchable. I think most would agree that mantle seems more suspicious. That is because his move against radish appears opportunistic compared to radish's slip. I would argue that a vote for mantle appears more opportunistic, though, than a vote for radish.

Mantle appears more suspicious at the moment in my eyes but I do have some suspicion towards Radish as well. The only reason I feel like this is because Mantle seemed to be pushing towards a Radish lynch slightly harder than I suspected for the "slip" he did. Also, it seemed kind of weird for him to base his FoS towards Radish on the fact that hat was being ignorant of his posts unless he knows something.

I have to say that I would be more inclined to lynch radish over mantle, I haven't read further than this yet, but I would actually like to hear from linkz about his radishradar read.

No ping yet. I wouldn't push for his lynch, but I wouldn't stand in the way of it either.



hatmoza said:
Linkzmax said:
mantlepiecek said:

Why do you think I was buddying up to you? When I did have my set of questions for mario as well?

What do you think about radish, hat?

Are you trying to say that having a set of questions for mario is supposed to be evidence of not buddying up to hat?

I should be the one saying something like "How is pointing out your fallacious argument(while agreeing on the other points of the post) a quick defense, when I was already questioning mario?"


town Linkz would have countered me directly with such a question.

scum Linkz would have hesitantly rebuttal~ed through a third person post, in a cowardly attempt to defend himself rather than directing his concerns head on with me.

Why is this about you? I directed my concerns directly at the player I quoted, and pointed out the difference which made his questions an odd pairing. It is a fool's errand to try and determine if you were town displaying again an ineptitude of getting facts straight or scum trying to foolishly sully my image.



hatmoza said:
@prof...??? really?

Did you think maybe, pft, because I'm replying as I read along the game?

Oh, I see.

I admit that your posts so far had been very encouraging. I was like, wow hat is making some excellent posts and seems very methodical.

The carelessness displayed by replying as you read does smell like your usual MO, as either mafia or town, for that matter... but, I'll concede by saying I was a bit surprised by that answer. muah.



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hatmoza said:
Let me remind people that this is Zero's a Yoshiya's first game (at least to my knowledge) don't let their warped view on the game and how it's played sidetrack you too much. We've all been rookies at one point and eventually learned to eliminate all misconceptions that come with the rookie experience.

It wouldn't stop either of them from being mafia, though. 

And it's not useless sidetracking if we correct misconceptions, 'cause that'll just be helpful. 



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c03n3nj0 said:
hatmoza said:
Let me remind people that this is Zero's a Yoshiya's first game (at least to my knowledge) don't let their warped view on the game and how it's played sidetrack you too much. We've all been rookies at one point and eventually learned to eliminate all misconceptions that come with the rookie experience.

It wouldn't stop either of them from being mafia, though. 

And it's not useless sidetracking if we correct misconceptions, 'cause that'll just be helpful. 


If I sensed newb scum behavior, I would have pointed it out already. All I get from both Zero and Yoshiya are newb town vibes that consist of determination and confusion. My track record for pointing out newb scum speaks for itself in previous games and I'm not getting a hint of it this game. I will not get into past games of course but I'll state right now with utmost confidence that at least Yoshiya is town.

The confusion I mention stems from lack of guidance- meaning they have no coach and are acting on their own... That much is evident to me at least.

That said, I don't want to get in the "but we don't know if scum can talk during the day" argument. My position on the matter is purely instinctive. And although my warning to not dwell on the newbs stands, I didn't say we should COMPLETELY eliminate all discussion about them as well. see bolded.



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hatmoza said:
c03n3nj0 said:
hatmoza said:
Let me remind people that this is Zero's a Yoshiya's first game (at least to my knowledge) don't let their warped view on the game and how it's played sidetrack you too much. We've all been rookies at one point and eventually learned to eliminate all misconceptions that come with the rookie experience.

It wouldn't stop either of them from being mafia, though. 

And it's not useless sidetracking if we correct misconceptions, 'cause that'll just be helpful. 


If I sensed newb scum behavior, I would have pointed it out already. All I get from both Zero and Yoshiya are newb town vibes that consist of determination and confusion. My track record for pointing out newb scum speaks for itself in previous games and I'm not getting a hint of it this game. I will not get into past games of course but I'll state right now with utmost confidence that at least Yoshiya is town.

The confusion I mention stems from lack of guidance- meaning they have no coach and are acting on their own... That much is evident to me at least.

That said, I don't want to get in the "but we don't know if scum can talk during the day" argument. My position on the matter is purely instinctive. And although my warning to not dwell on the newbs stands, I didn't say we should COMPLETELY eliminate all discussion about them as well. see bolded.

Welp, I'm not gonna argue with this - I don't have any good reads on them. And suit yoself on yo own reads. 

But zero's asking if townies could be lynched is plain odd.

1) He supposedly read the rules thoroughly, so knowing that mislynches can be made is kinda big deal. 
2) It seems like a way to distance himself from the mafia - "Can I be lynched? 'Cause I'm totally a townie you guys."

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until later in the game.



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morenoingrato said:
Also, Mario, will you truly condemn me on those two posts? Really?

Like I said, you mind be able to change my mind.

 

Linkzmax said:

Why not Noctis? I didn't check moreno's online status, but Noctis does show up as being online 9 hours ago(yes I know it's not a foolproof metric) and yet only has his checking in post.

It isn't about lurking, even though both have done so. It is how they went about doing it. Yes, both of them said "checking in" or something to that effect. but Noctis at least posted a picture as well that would bring more attention to himself. For all I know both could be mafia, but I chose Moreno because he is more likely to be mafia in my opinion.




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