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Khuutra on 11 August 2012
Soundwave said:
Khuutra said:

Whoa whoa whoa.

Who the Hell told you that Nintendo has a third party ecosystem

LOL, this is exactly what I was thinking. The Wii section at just about any store is an avalanche of crap shovelware outside of the Nintendo 1st party stuff whch is usually lumped together. 

What I really mean is that Nintendo's relationship with third parties never really recovered after that whole N64 "ultra team" thing



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happydolphin on 11 August 2012
Khuutra said:

What I really mean is that Nintendo's relationship with third parties never really recovered after that whole N64 "ultra team" thing

Thankfully it kind of is recovering to a degree on the 3DS (EDIT: in japan).

My hope is that that trend propagates to the WiiU.

Off-topic, that is the best avatar I've seen on you.

EDIT: What's the N64 "ultra team"?



Kasz216 on 11 August 2012

You know... I always find it funny when people's argument is

"Nintendo's main problem is that Nintendo is too good at making video games."



DanneSandin on 11 August 2012
MagusDiablo said:
DanneSandin said:
What they should do is offer both ends of the spectrum: the high end, high quality games, such as Mario and Zelda, AND the $1 games, such as Angry Bird...


Nintendo is trying to do it. Games like Zenonia, Plants vs Zombies and a lot of other games are coming to the eShop.

oh, that's great to hear!!



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DanneSandin on 11 August 2012
oniyide said:
DanneSandin said:
Mmm interesting read! And it has a few points to it as well.

But couldn't mobile games be sort of a portal to handheld gaming? If kids start playing iOS games they might buy a 3DS later on to get better games?


The thing is, is not really the kids who are playing these games in droves, its mostly adults, and i doubt you will get most of them to start playing the meatier games of the 3DS or Vita if they never gave a damn in the first place, especially if those games are going to be even more expensive. and most kids dont have hundreds of dollars lying around to buy themselves a 3DS.  It isnt unlike the WIi, sure alot of people bought WiiFit and Sports Resort, but how many of those type of people bought Conduit? GE?, COD on Wii? Most of them didnt because they were not interested

No, kids don't buy games on iPhones/iPads - but their parents do, and a lot of the time the kids will make their parents buy a certain game they want. And THAT'S a possible way to get into handhelds =)



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DanneSandin on 11 August 2012
oniyide said:
DanneSandin said:
What they should do is offer both ends of the spectrum: the high end, high quality games, such as Mario and Zelda, AND the $1 games, such as Angry Bird...


thats been going on for awhile, Sony has had its minis and DS had DSiware for sometime, IMHO it was a little bit late to the game, that stuff should have been available for both those systems day 1

Yeah, I totally agree that those options should have been there day one. That's why I got psyched when I heard the rumor that WiiU would have android market on it, so you could download all of those game; they need something similar.



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Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

DanneSandin on 11 August 2012
RolStoppable said:
Summary: Nothing has changed. The biggest obstacle to third party success are still third parties themselves. Also, Western publishers still suck hard on handhelds.

What I don't understand is why don't they step up their game? They could sell just as much as Nintendo, but they prefer to do crappy games (well, not all of them) and complain about how they can't sell games on Nintendo HW...



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Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

oniyide on 11 August 2012
DanneSandin said:
oniyide said:
DanneSandin said:
Mmm interesting read! And it has a few points to it as well.

But couldn't mobile games be sort of a portal to handheld gaming? If kids start playing iOS games they might buy a 3DS later on to get better games?


The thing is, is not really the kids who are playing these games in droves, its mostly adults, and i doubt you will get most of them to start playing the meatier games of the 3DS or Vita if they never gave a damn in the first place, especially if those games are going to be even more expensive. and most kids dont have hundreds of dollars lying around to buy themselves a 3DS.  It isnt unlike the WIi, sure alot of people bought WiiFit and Sports Resort, but how many of those type of people bought Conduit? GE?, COD on Wii? Most of them didnt because they were not interested

No, kids don't buy games on iPhones/iPads - but their parents do, and a lot of the time the kids will make their parents buy a certain game they want. And THAT'S a possible way to get into handhelds =)

true, but what are parents more likely to do? Are they really going to shell out money for a 170 dollar machine or more to play games that cost 30 dollars or more? Or are they going to tell little Timmy to piss off and keep buying cheap dollar games for the 200 dollar phone they already bought. I know what i would do.



oniyide on 11 August 2012
DanneSandin said:
RolStoppable said:
Summary: Nothing has changed. The biggest obstacle to third party success are still third parties themselves. Also, Western publishers still suck hard on handhelds.

What I don't understand is why don't they step up their game? They could sell just as much as Nintendo, but they prefer to do crappy games (well, not all of them) and complain about how they can't sell games on Nintendo HW...

you can count on one hand how much 3rd party games sell as well as Nintendo games period. GTA, COD, JD. two of those were adapted for portables with varying results. GTA games did ok to good on PSP, not so much DS.  COD games sold like crap on DS and the one PSP entry did alright. I would like to see a JD on 3DS, not cause i would buy it, just to see if people would



HappySqurriel on 11 August 2012
oniyide said:
DanneSandin said:
oniyide said:
DanneSandin said:
Mmm interesting read! And it has a few points to it as well.

But couldn't mobile games be sort of a portal to handheld gaming? If kids start playing iOS games they might buy a 3DS later on to get better games?


The thing is, is not really the kids who are playing these games in droves, its mostly adults, and i doubt you will get most of them to start playing the meatier games of the 3DS or Vita if they never gave a damn in the first place, especially if those games are going to be even more expensive. and most kids dont have hundreds of dollars lying around to buy themselves a 3DS.  It isnt unlike the WIi, sure alot of people bought WiiFit and Sports Resort, but how many of those type of people bought Conduit? GE?, COD on Wii? Most of them didnt because they were not interested

No, kids don't buy games on iPhones/iPads - but their parents do, and a lot of the time the kids will make their parents buy a certain game they want. And THAT'S a possible way to get into handhelds =)

true, but what are parents more likely to do? Are they really going to shell out money for a 170 dollar machine or more to play games that cost 30 dollars or more? Or are they going to tell little Timmy to piss off and keep buying cheap dollar games for the 200 dollar phone they already bought. I know what i would do.

Modern parents?

Probably buy the $170 device to show of how "great" of a parent they are.