What makes you think Apple would be successful in the gaming industry this time?

Beyond that, outside of iPods Apple has never been able to maintain a dominant marketshare in any product they produce; Apple represents (roughly) 12% of the PC market, 16.8% of the smart phone market, and (last I heard) the iPad had fallen to (just above) 50% of the tablet market. Over the next 24 months I would expect Apple to continue to hold 12.5% of the PC market, fall to 12.5% of the smart phone market, and fall to 25% of the tablet market because Apple only cares about producing high margin electronics for the high end consumer.

Personally, I would expect Apple to be embarrassed if they entered into the console market if they followed a typical Apple strategy ... Essentially, rather than releasing a console that cost $300 to manufacture for $300 like Nintendo would, or a $500 to manufacture console for $400 like Microsoft or Sony would, Apple would release a system that cost $300 to manufacture for $600.

well, those numbers about Apples share means nothing if you don't post the leading companies numbers as well, Vitas market share is 12.1% - which is comparable to Apples PC market share. That's pretty good when taken out of context. Now, if we compare it with the market leader (the 3DS) we clearly see that 12% is pretty bad compared to the 3DS' 80% market share. Even if Apple only has 12% of the PC market they could be the leader.

What we need to remember is that Apple is pretty good at taking something existing and... making it their own. Just look at the iPod, iPhone or iPad. If they entered the gaming industry I'm pretty sure they'd bring something new - unlike what they did back in 199-something.

Anyway, I don't believe Apple would be successful in gaming - it was a "what if"-scenario. I'm not all that fearful of them dominating gaming (excluding all their crappy games on iOS).

Nevermind they have opposite agenda........one making cost effective lower spec hardware and the other making loss producing cutting edge hardware.

Also the old grudge of Nintendo and Sony leading to the PS1.

Nintendo's recent problems are nothing compared to the massive pit that Sony's games division has to climb out of. This would be something that Nintendo might consider as a last ditch effort to stay afloat, but they don't have those kinds of problems.

Maybe if Nintendo gets some really big problems but they're doing okay right now. Nintendo dropped Sony in favour of CDi remember? Sony I think still hates them for it

Microsoft can't hurt Sony at all.

The only reason M$ did so good in this Gen was cause of the money they did spend on 3rd Party and the overpriced PS3 at the beginning.
The PS3 is outselling and destroying the 360 now for years WORLDWIDE and is the system where the most software is sold on.

If sony isn't so stupid again with the price they will dominate again.
3rd Party is favoring Sony big in the last 2 years and they don't need to spend 50 Million like Microsoft did with the GTA DLC.
3rd Party loves Sony again and hopefully the people get somehow bored of Call of Duty so they need to look over to the Sony Side cause this is where tons of different genres are available,especially High Quality Exclusives that aren't yearly shooters with 15 Trilogies.

The PS3 was just far too advanced or rather the technology to expensive and Sony couldn't handle the whole thing.
They won't make that mistake twice.They will find a middleway this time.

I don't think Nintendo will ever forgive them for the SNES CD.

Didn't Sony game division post a decent profit recently?  I believe the rest of Sony is in deep shit but not the game division.

Last quarter Sony lost $312 million.  The gaming division lost $45 million.

You must have been reading Turkish's thread which gave results from last year.

Ah, I just remembered the thread being at the top recently.  I didn't go in there so I suppose that caused me to believe that it just happened.