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Who will win the Super Bowl? Part II

Denver Broncos 24 18.75%
 
New England Patriots 14 10.94%
 
Houston Texans 1 0.78%
 
Baltimore Ravens 29 22.66%
 
Glasgow Rangers 3 2.34%
 
Atlanta Falcons 4 3.13%
 
San Francisco 49ers 29 22.66%
 
Green Bay Packers 4 3.13%
 
Seattle Seahawks 6 4.69%
 
I am a wuss, but I want to see the results. 12 9.38%
 
Total:126
theRepublic on 04 February 2013
pokoko said:
It was a really enjoyable game, minus the delay and the unintelligible half-time performance. I watched the CBS stream so I didn't get to see most of the new ads, though.

I kind of like both teams and I kind of hate both coaches so I really had no dog in this fight--except that I picked the Ravens to win the Super Bowl at the start of the year in my friend's annual prediction league. There was a lot of drama at the end, which was fun.

As for that play in the end zone, I agree with the no-call. The Raven's player was holding and the 49er's player was pushing off with his hand on the other guy's helmet. I don't see how you could have called a foul on one and not the other.

Mike Pereira (former VP of Officiating) agrees with you.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/mike-pereira-super-bowl-xlvii-calls-no-holding-on-crucial-play-020313

"Here was the situation: the 49ers had the ball, fourth-and-goal from the Baltimore 5-yard line with 1:50 left in the game. Baltimore led, 34-29.

Kaepernick lofted a pass to Michael Crabtree, who was being guarded by Jimmy Smith. Both players were hand fighting and when you look at this play in real time, there's not enough to call pass interference against either player. Smith had a quick grab and Crabtree had a quick push-off. Smith went down on the play and the pass fell incomplete.

Crabtree never complained and it's the type of play where a flag thrown against either team would have, in my mind, created more controversy than a decision not to throw the flag.

By the way, it couldn't be defensive holding because the pass was in the air when the contact occurred. It's either offensive pass interference or defensive pass interference.

It was not an obvious foul and until I looked at it in slow motion, it seemed like no foul at all. It's not a penalty I would want called if I were still VP of Officiating for the NFL."



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pokoko on 04 February 2013
theRepublic said:
pokoko said:
It was a really enjoyable game, minus the delay and the unintelligible half-time performance. I watched the CBS stream so I didn't get to see most of the new ads, though.

I kind of like both teams and I kind of hate both coaches so I really had no dog in this fight--except that I picked the Ravens to win the Super Bowl at the start of the year in my friend's annual prediction league. There was a lot of drama at the end, which was fun.

As for that play in the end zone, I agree with the no-call. The Raven's player was holding and the 49er's player was pushing off with his hand on the other guy's helmet. I don't see how you could have called a foul on one and not the other.

Mike Pereira (former VP of Officiating) agrees with you.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/mike-pereira-super-bowl-xlvii-calls-no-holding-on-crucial-play-020313

 

"Here was the situation: the 49ers had the ball, fourth-and-goal from the Baltimore 5-yard line with 1:50 left in the game. Baltimore led, 34-29.

Kaepernick lofted a pass to Michael Crabtree, who was being guarded by Jimmy Smith. Both players were hand fighting and when you look at this play in real time, there's not enough to call pass interference against either player. Smith had a quick grab and Crabtree had a quick push-off. Smith went down on the play and the pass fell incomplete.

Crabtree never complained and it's the type of play where a flag thrown against either team would have, in my mind, created more controversy than a decision not to throw the flag.

By the way, it couldn't be defensive holding because the pass was in the air when the contact occurred. It's either offensive pass interference or defensive pass interference.

It was not an obvious foul and until I looked at it in slow motion, it seemed like no foul at all. It's not a penalty I would want called if I were still VP of Officiating for the NFL."

 

Good to know.  Thanks for that.  As someone who was pretty close to impartial, I felt like that no-call was the right call.  Mike Pereira is as trust-worthy a source as I've seen.



Chris Hu on 04 February 2013
theRepublic said:
RolStoppable said:

Ray Lewis made a statement by not picking the ball at the start of the game. Flacco is an elite QB now that he set a new playoff record for TDs.

He only tied Montana and Warner with 11 in a single postseason.  Both Flacco and Montana did it with zero interceptions.


That's good company especially tying Montana's performance.



smbu2000 on 05 February 2013
shakarak said:
smbu2000 said:
shakarak said:
it should be said that Denver put up a better fight then the 49ers during the playoffs. Regardless congratulations to Ray for an awesome career and going out on top.

Yes, the one and done Broncos, whose offense did nothing (Holliday!) did better in the playoffs than the 49ers who won 2 games and narrowly lost in the SB. Gotcha.

So did the nfl ever say what happened with that long power outage? It was going on so long I nearly fell asleep.

I was talking specifically against the ravens.   

Holliday played well, but the rest of the Broncos didn't do so hot. Their special teams basically kept them from getting blown out. 2OT game vs regular game length.

Total Plays: DEN 87/SF 60

Total Yard: DEN 398/SF 468

Yards Per Play: DEN 4.6/SF 7.8

Passing Yards: DEN 273/SF 286

Rushing Yards: DEN 125/SF 182

 

Passing:

 C/ATTYDSAVGTDINTSACKSQBRRTG
P. Manning 28/43 290 6.7 3 2 3-17 58.1 88.3
  C/ATTYDSAVGTDINTSACKSQBRRTG
C. Kaepernick 16/28 302 10.8 1 1 3-16 46.1 91.7

Rushing:

CARYDSAVGTDLG
R. Hillman 22 83 3.8 0 11
K. Moreno 10 32 3.2 0 8
CARYDSAVGTDLG
F. Gore 19 110 5.8 1 33
C. Kaepernick 7 62 8.9 1 15

Receiving:

RECYDSAVGTDLGTGTS
E. Decker 6 84 14.0 0 32 10
J. Dreessen 6 46 7.7 0 11 8
RECYDSAVGTDLGTGTS
M. Crabtree 5 109 21.8 1 31 10
V. Davis 6 104 17.3 0 29 8



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