Going by murder rate the US has a pretty good lead on the UK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Other violent crimes I am sure we are ahead of also.  Also, one interesting note.  Check that map out on the link.   New Orleans / Louisiana doesn't help our murder rate too well considering it is the same as Russia, South Africa, Brazil, etc..

Or, they can just take YOU back, Seth.  I love this country.

i believe the institue in america counting the violence rate (no clue which institute) only counts aggravated assault and something else as violent crime and most other developed countries count every kind of assault even if it is without weapon usage or serious harm. i read this anywhere some time ago. that's as example why violent crime rate in canada is more than twice as high as the rate in usa, but is this really true? (about usa/canada, uk is really high and maybe above usa).

but it's not so easy just too look at the numbers these institutes of different countries release and just saying then "see, this country has a violence rate of xy and that country has a rate of z".

that how i understood it, no clue where i read this

Reminds me of the awesome quote,  If you don't like then you can leave!

Oops sorry I fucked that quote up...

Love it or leave it!  - Tom Cruise, Born on the 4th of July

I can't count how many times I've been told that... 

Murder rate, but not in terms of overall violent crime. Unless things have changed in the past few years, which I doubt they have given the fact that the US crime rate keeps falling.

Wow, worse than South Africa.  What the hell is going on over there?  I believe it is legal to own flamethrowers on your car in South Africa due to carjacking being so high. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaster_%28flamethrower%29

I'll have to take that part out of the op or change it to murder

why not everyone?

Do not worry guys it is because he lives in Texas.

They gave us Bush the 2nd so of course he is unhappy.

which numbers did they use for these statistics? did they just use numbers every country releases as "violent crime" or did they make the own statistics to be sure every number as exactly the same kind of violence as "violent crime"?

just as example, they write "The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935"

and that's exactly what i was talking about in my other post, they count much  more in canada as violent crime as they do in usa, so you have to put canada and other countries lower or you have to increase the number of usa drastically. it makes no sense to compare the numbers if one country doesn't count something as violent crime and the other country does.