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sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
sales2099 said:
To kill Halo the following criteria must be met:

1. Be a 90+ metacritic score.
2. Can only be a PS3 exclusive (since PS3 is 360s main rival and you can only fight an exclusive with another exclusive).
3. Must match or surpass the sales of the last major Halo release.
4. Gain as much pop culture status or surpass Halo in this regard.

It seems to be that number 3 and 4 are the tricky ones. Hence Halo is still alive and well :).

Why is that a must?

There's grounds to argue that COD took over Halo but that isn't exclusive.

Sure if your talking in pure sales but it isnt the parallel to what Halo is. Halo represents the Xbox brand. So surely its "killer" must represent the competition aka the PS3. 

Depends on who you talk to I guess 

No.

For something to be "killed" it needs to be replaced as either the head of its genre or as you say the head of its brand.

in the case of genres, it can be exclusive to ps3 (but not necessary) in case of brand, it only needs to be ousted by a 360 exclusive and be considered the xbox brand icon.

I put it to you that mario is still "king" of Nintedo land and king of platformers because it has yet to be replaced by another nintendo game or a superior platformer.



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sethnintendo said:
blkfish92 said:
They both a bother, I miss the days when the RPG genre was King.


When was that?  The PS1 era?


There are tons of amazing games on PC during the late 90's and onward too!



CoD is just easier. It appeals to more people because of this. I watched a vid of a Halo player named Kampy play CoD, he only played for 2 weeks an he was demolishing the competition. It has some skill required to be a good player, don't get me wrong. It just usually comes down to who see's who first, you get that split second to kill someone and in CoD, that's all it takes. A BR or DMR "dual" in Halo for example takes 3-4 shots to break shields respectively, then 1 shot to the head to kill, more if you miss the head. CoD is spray and pray. Imagine getting 3/4 head-shots for every kill in CoD? Yeah right.



axumblade said:
This brings me back to the days when every PS3 exclusive was the "halo killer."

My particular favorite Halo Killer was Haze. People were so hyped for it, then the demo came out (and a few gameplay videos) and almost instantly, everybody was like "um...KILLZONE 2 IS THE HALO KILLER!"


Uhh... Haze. I played that at a friends house of mine. It was a good concept just not used well.



Ajescent said:
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
sales2099 said:
To kill Halo the following criteria must be met:

1. Be a 90+ metacritic score.
2. Can only be a PS3 exclusive (since PS3 is 360s main rival and you can only fight an exclusive with another exclusive).
3. Must match or surpass the sales of the last major Halo release.
4. Gain as much pop culture status or surpass Halo in this regard.

It seems to be that number 3 and 4 are the tricky ones. Hence Halo is still alive and well :).

Why is that a must?

There's grounds to argue that COD took over Halo but that isn't exclusive.

Sure if your talking in pure sales but it isnt the parallel to what Halo is. Halo represents the Xbox brand. So surely its "killer" must represent the competition aka the PS3. 

Depends on who you talk to I guess 

No.

For something to be "killed" it needs to be replaced as either the head of its genre or as you say the head of its brand.

in the case of genres, it can be exclusive to ps3 (but not necessary) in case of brand, it only needs to be ousted by a 360 exclusive and be considered the xbox brand icon.

I put it to you that mario is still "king" of Nintedo land and king of platformers because it has yet to be replaced by another nintendo game or a superior platformer.

There is no "no" as there is no concrete definition. 

Either way, Halo is still king in the exclusive department, and if you include multiplats, you include COD....which sells best on 360 anyway. I can live with either possibility. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

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sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
sales2099 said:
To kill Halo the following criteria must be met:

1. Be a 90+ metacritic score.
2. Can only be a PS3 exclusive (since PS3 is 360s main rival and you can only fight an exclusive with another exclusive).
3. Must match or surpass the sales of the last major Halo release.
4. Gain as much pop culture status or surpass Halo in this regard.

It seems to be that number 3 and 4 are the tricky ones. Hence Halo is still alive and well :).

Why is that a must?

There's grounds to argue that COD took over Halo but that isn't exclusive.

Sure if your talking in pure sales but it isnt the parallel to what Halo is. Halo represents the Xbox brand. So surely its "killer" must represent the competition aka the PS3. 

Depends on who you talk to I guess 

No.

For something to be "killed" it needs to be replaced as either the head of its genre or as you say the head of its brand.

in the case of genres, it can be exclusive to ps3 (but not necessary) in case of brand, it only needs to be ousted by a 360 exclusive and be considered the xbox brand icon.

I put it to you that mario is still "king" of Nintedo land and king of platformers because it has yet to be replaced by another nintendo game or a superior platformer.

There is no "no" as there is no concrete definition. 

Either way, Halo is still king in the exclusive department, and if you include multiplats, you include COD....which sells best on 360 anyway. I can live with either possibility. 

One of the reasons I don't realy enjoy typing with you is that everything always ends up boiling down to a ps3 vs 360 arguement and I really don't like those. Because there's more to gaming than sales, there's more to gaming than which is better, the ps3 or the 360, there's just more.



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sethnintendo said:
blkfish92 said:
They both a bother, I miss the days when the RPG genre was King.


When was that?  The PS1 era?


Ya lol, when I first started gaming when I was a kid, ps1/n64 pretty much, mainly ps1 for the golden age of rpgs



           

blkfish92 said:
sethnintendo said:
blkfish92 said:
They both a bother, I miss the days when the RPG genre was King.


When was that?  The PS1 era?


Ya lol, when I first started gaming when I was a kid, ps1/n64 pretty much, mainly ps1 for the golden age of rpgs


Ps1 the golden age of rpg's?? Delete the comment now while you still have a chance!! Run!!! RUN!!!!!



Good grief. I'm so tired of people complaining that something is too popular. What does it really hurt you that other people enjoy a game series so much. If you don't care for something I suggest you stop giving a crap about it and move on. I don't play sports games, they come out every year, but I don't give enough of a crap about sports to care one way or the other. As far as I'm concerned the entire sports genre doesn't exist. It has no baring on my life.

Halo is super popular and so is COD. But there are literally so many non-FPS games that there's too many to play. I have a stack of games, most of which aren't FPS games, that are backlogs waiting for me to play. I love Halo and enjoy COD, but don't play multiplayer, so I'm very much looking forward to Halo 4 and Black Ops 2. But I also can't wait for Tomb Raider, Bioshok Infinite, Aliens CM, Forza Horizon, RE6, Metal Gear Rising, and more. That's on top of all the games that have come out that I haven't picked up yet, like Witcher 2, Spec Ops The Line, Max Payne 3, Asura's Wrath, Armored Core 5, and so many more I doubt I'll even get to play them all.

We, as gamers, are spoiled for choice right now. There are just too many games and there are so many different genres today that nobody is getting left out in the cold.

What exactly is so bad about Halo and COD being so popular? I mean what game isn't being made because of Halo and COD? As far as I'm concerned the popularity of a game or even a genre doesn't limit the popularity of another. Take for instance JRPGs. The only thing slowing down JRPG production is it's own stagnation and consumer apathy. It's not Halo and COD's fault that so few people are interested in JRPGs. It is the JRPG developers fault for relying on overused tropes and archaic gameplay.

If you don't want to play Halo and COD, that's perfectly fine, but please stop complaining that I and other do.



I remember when Darksiders was hailed as the "Zelda killer."



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