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Mr Puggsly on 01 July 2012
UncleScrooge said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Gameboy Color should be considered another platform. Because not all GBC games are compatible with the original GB.


I see where you're coming from but I disagree here because in that case:

- The DSi was a seperate system because you couldn't play DSi games on a DS (Lite)

- All PSX systems sold with the original controller should be counted seperately because some games required dual analog input (and we don't know how many people upgraded to a Dual Shock just as we don't know how many people never played a GBC only game on their GBC)

- The PSP Go was a different system because not all PSP games could be played on it and it didn't have a UMD drive

 

By all means the GBC was probably somewhere inbetween a new system and a remodelling of the black and white Gameboy. And it's questionable which side it was closer to. So we're all right and wrong at the same time. Mindfuck

From what I've read, DSi Ware games aren't compatible with the original DS. Not because DS doesn't have access to the shop, but the games simply aren't compatible. I assume DSi Ware titles have access to the superior processor and RAM found in the DSi. So I would consider it a different platform.

The dual analog control is just a peripheral. I didn't have to buy a newer PS1 to use it. Same story with the Playstation Move.

 PSP Go doesn't have a disc drive, but its still compatible with all the games. You just have to hack it to play games off the memory stick.



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UncleScrooge on 01 July 2012
Mr Puggsly said:
UncleScrooge said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Gameboy Color should be considered another platform. Because not all GBC games are compatible with the original GB.


I see where you're coming from but I disagree here because in that case:

- The DSi was a seperate system because you couldn't play DSi games on a DS (Lite)

- All PSX systems sold with the original controller should be counted seperately because some games required dual analog input (and we don't know how many people upgraded to a Dual Shock just as we don't know how many people never played a GBC only game on their GBC)

- The PSP Go was a different system because not all PSP games could be played on it and it didn't have a UMD drive

 

By all means the GBC was probably somewhere inbetween a new system and a remodelling of the black and white Gameboy. And it's questionable which side it was closer to. So we're all right and wrong at the same time. Mindfuck

From what I've read, DSi Ware games aren't compatible with the original DS. Not because DS doesn't have access to the shop, but the games simply aren't compatible. I assume DSi Ware titles have access to the superior processor and RAM found in the DSi. So I would consider it a different platform.

The dual analog control is just a peripheral. I didn't have to buy a newer PS1 to use it. Same story with the Playstation Move.

 PSP Go doesn't have a disc drive, but its still compatible with all the games. You just have to hack it to play games off the memory stick.

My post was meant to show that there is sort of a grey zone between a new platform and a remodelling. As I said it depends on where the line is crossed in your opinion. The GBC was not a remodelling but neither a new console in the traditional sense. It was somewhere inbetween somewhat like a new generation of a smartphone is inbetween those two extremes as well. 



S.Peelman on 01 July 2012

A side note to everything already said above;

Another reason the GameBoy and GameBoy Color are considered to be of the same Gen, is perhaps that both are 8-bit. Both devices are basically capable of doing the same, besides the obvious colour addition. The GameBoy Advance was a proper new system because it was 32-bit.

Mr Puggsly said:

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PSP Go doesn't have a disc drive, but its still compatible with all the games. You just have to hack it to play games off the memory stick.

Well you're not supposed to do that.

Out of the box, PSPGo and regular PSP were not compatible with most of each other's features. I guess that, were 'the scene' around back then, GameBoy Color games could be played on GameBoy by hacking them too and they would just be greyscale.



NintendoPie on 01 July 2012

The GameBoy line was quite a confusing story.

I'm pretty sure the Colour was indeed an upgrade to the originals but Nintendo decided to keep it in the same family and have it as an "option" for people to buy.

The cartridges make no sense to me either.



Mr Puggsly on 01 July 2012
UncleScrooge said:
Mr Puggsly said:
UncleScrooge said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Gameboy Color should be considered another platform. Because not all GBC games are compatible with the original GB.


I see where you're coming from but I disagree here because in that case:

- The DSi was a seperate system because you couldn't play DSi games on a DS (Lite)

- All PSX systems sold with the original controller should be counted seperately because some games required dual analog input (and we don't know how many people upgraded to a Dual Shock just as we don't know how many people never played a GBC only game on their GBC)

- The PSP Go was a different system because not all PSP games could be played on it and it didn't have a UMD drive

 

By all means the GBC was probably somewhere inbetween a new system and a remodelling of the black and white Gameboy. And it's questionable which side it was closer to. So we're all right and wrong at the same time. Mindfuck

From what I've read, DSi Ware games aren't compatible with the original DS. Not because DS doesn't have access to the shop, but the games simply aren't compatible. I assume DSi Ware titles have access to the superior processor and RAM found in the DSi. So I would consider it a different platform.

The dual analog control is just a peripheral. I didn't have to buy a newer PS1 to use it. Same story with the Playstation Move.

 PSP Go doesn't have a disc drive, but its still compatible with all the games. You just have to hack it to play games off the memory stick.

My post was meant to show that there is sort of a grey zone between a new platform and a remodelling. As I said it depends on where the line is crossed in your opinion. The GBC was not a remodelling but neither a new console in the traditional sense. It was somewhere inbetween somewhat like a new generation of a smartphone is inbetween those two extremes as well. 

Smartphones are more comparible to PCs.

The GBC essentially upgraded everything about the original GB and had many titles that were only supported on GBC. The changes made were so significant that it should be considered another platform. But I really don't if it is and I'm sure most feel the same.



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