That was also the reason why I kept asking you who his scum-mate was.
pezus said:
No, the scum won't kill prof because that will make him an easy lynch the next day. And you just set that up here. |
Are you serious? Prof will be dead today, I swear. I know it. You think they are going to risk him, unless he is super dumb scum who defended a town he is going to be dead.
| mantlepiecek said: This is why if you think prof is scum, go for his scummate. Do not go for him. The night itself will prove whether he is scum or not. In case he is alive then either me or one other person will die among Conj and you, and that will clear you as well, after lynching mario we can see the alignment and roles as well. |
If you think Prof is scum go after someone else? You just are not making any sense. The night will prove if he is scum or not? Isn't that what I have been saying. We have had plenty of nights, yet Prof is still alive and kickin'. After lynching me we can see alignment of roles? That is true, because if you lynch me then we will lose. Well, I shouldn't say we since I know you are not town. You desperately want a mis-lynch, but I won't allow it.
So, do we lynch Prof or Mantle first?
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supermario128 said:
If you think Prof is scum go after someone else? You just are not making any sense. The night will prove if he is scum or not? Isn't that what I have been saying. We have had plenty of nights, yet Prof is still alive and kickin'. After lynching me we can see alignment of roles? That is true, because if you lynch me then we will lose. Well, I shouldn't say we since I know you are not town. You desperately want a mis-lynch, but I won't allow it. So, do we lynch Prof or Mantle first |
And who do you want to lynch first, mister?
Yeah, except the survivor is basically confirmed to be a non-mafia, which means we can narrow down the suspect list if we have one.
This has nothing to do with actions.
pezus said:
Wait a minute...you said he was very townie before. What changed? Why don't we go for mantle first then? |
Because of mario's question. It gives me a "I'll leave the mislynch up to town" vibe from him. And my name is first on the list (primacy effect; see psychology), and it feels like he wants to lynch me first. I know I'm town, so it would mean that mantle is his partner.
I've seen this tactic before. It's an "I'm not going to help you lynch a scum, but I'll make it look like I was helping while subtly pushing for the mislynch". I've seen it several times in vgc mafia. The "which one first" is a trigger. I'd say that I was perhaps wrong about mantle, IF I'm right about this. I told myself I wouldn't post my thoughts on here again, but I feel pretty strongly about this one.
pezus said:
So what are you saying? |
Well, we could discuss the ramifications now or later, but it would help town to know a survivor, though I would be keenly suspicious of one even if one came forward. Still, it would be another aspect to think about. The more we know right now, the better. It is likely the last day.
| theprof00 said: And who do you want to lynch first, mister? |
Either of you.
| theprof00 said: Mario is the best choice, and if it's right, mantle is next. |
You do realize I was trying to get Mantle lynched for a couple of days now, right? If we were both mafia there is no way I would be so vocal against him. Besides, I think that is the quickest turn around I have ever seen in a game of mafia. First you are almost certain mantle is town saying it was obvious, now you think he is scum? Yes, I read your explanation you gave to Pezus, but that seems pretty weak imo. Also, why do you want to lynch me first as opposed to Mantle? If you are so sure we are both scum then why not mantle first? Is it because you don't want to lynch your team mate?
As far as the survivor thing goes. If we have one they are not going to come forward as such.
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theprof00 said:
Oops, my bad, I got home and procrastinated with beers, chinese, and game of thrones episodes.
Anyway, I don't really have a read on j0. He has been saying some intriguing things all game, but there have been times where he's done complete 180's on scummy thought processes. Like, I have been thinking at times that he was clearly scum, but then he'd completely change his mind and start making sense. A mafia follows through with illogical thought processes. For example, with wiibox, j0 was defending him and was making an argument but then right after that post, admitted that he'd actually convinced himself that wiibox was scum! Like, I just don't see that coming from a mafia, not one bit, because it's easily explainable if he was. He could just say, "how was I supposed to know? I made a decision and it was the wrong one" etc etc. So yeah, I don't think j0 is scum, but I do recognize that it's not GREAT evidence. That's just what I'm seeing. Mantle: his reaction to my "cop hint", which in all reality was never a cop claim felt like a genuine town. He seemed excited for the cop to come forward. While I never claimed to be the cop, I said "even though I hinted at cop". He didn't start in with accusations or suspicion, he instantly accepted it. If he was mafia and took the "obvitown" as a way out, wouldn't he have thought that maybe I was trying to trick him and steer clear... or maybe just not talk so much and reveal his thoughts like he did? Furthermore, he voted to extend time, which nobody else did, when I said that I was time constrained. You (pezus) I've already gone over. You say I'm wrong, I disagree, but I'm here to discuss, not push my agenda. Mario just doesn't come across as a townie. I haven't had any of the town reads that I've had with j0 or mantle with him. This is why my decision is you and mario. |
This isn't really helping your view on me, but:
I never defended Wiibox. All I did was not vote for him immediately, reasoning that there was no rush to lynch him. I did convince myself to vote for him with my own posts, but it was more along the lines of "Why the hell do I want to postpone this any longer? He's clearly scum."
It's not as 180 as you make it out to be, honestly.
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