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Well that's certainly better than "well IF spurge is town, so what if everyone loses their powers night one" because we both know a town spurge doesn't bother to read.

Unvote: prof

Rule #1 certainly is stupid due to the fact that one stupid townie can really bring the whole team down. That's no reason to test it though.

And what I meant by "my kind of Mafia" is the faster days, and no chance of a no lynch day one.(Though I think it has it's use in later days, but it's a trade off I can deal with)

Rules that can be exploited to break the game is not my kind of Mafia.



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Linkzmax said:

I understand making a change so you're less likely to be lynched. However, why did you announce it?

Didn't you already answer your own question?

Linkz: "I'm not voting yet, but if I were to I'd vote for spurge, radish, or the super serial Mario.(And so that there's no misreading that, I mean his serious attitude)"

Obviously, if I didn't say I was going to play more serious ahead of time people would think I am changing my play style for a different reason. I'm pretty sure I already mentioned I would play more serious before the game even started, but if I didn't say so directly then I meant to and it should be obvious as to why. Anyways,  this is a bit funny. I get lynched for being too care free and obnoxious and now you are saying you would vote for me because I am being too serious.




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Linkzmax said:
Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:
Id just like to know if the suspicions directed at me are just really bad scumhunting or whether mafia thinks theyve struck gold with a possible sk lynch.

I'm just a townie really pissed at you.

Linkz I think is scum trying to get some benefit.

Weird.. I seem to remember someone else suggesting prof could be SK. Jeez, if it was me I'm going to look so foolish!

no if you turn out to be scum, and I figured it out from something you did today it would leave you looking so foolish.

Me saying a way prof could do what he did that wouldn't really hurt his team, not so much



theprof00 said:
(2) lol why is everyone acting so crazy about what I did? I was just trolling stefl.

(3)How did it help town? Hey you never know maybe an uninformed mafia might've lost his team their night actions.
(3)How might it hurt town? Well, the only people talking were spurge and linkz (aside from radish who appeared to be lurking) and one knew the rule, so it was really only spurge in danger.
(1) If he IS town, well, that doesn't bother me too much, tbh.

j0 basically said 1 already, the obvious thing being prof's carefree attitude about all of town losing their powers. Power or not, that's clearly not benefitial for town. Taking it another level, prof wouldn't care to be protected night 1.(Yeah I know he died early three games so he's due or whatever)

2 is a generalization. Everyone merely consisted of Wonk, Mario, and I, while others were neutral, said nothing of it, or outright dismissed it. Not a big thing I admit, but certainly not helpful.

3, well he states I knew the rule already. So I'm not going to hurt my team, whatever it may be. Which leaves spurge, who statistically is more likely to be town than mafia. Having a scum-scum feel on the two of us based on last round's interaction between hat and spurge(which wasn't scum-scum) is hardly a good reason to put town at risk.

I hate to leave mid-thought, but I'm going to see Spidey. Might be back in a few hours or I might pass out.



Linkzmax said:

 

Well that's certainly better than "well IF spurge is town, so what if everyone loses their powers night one" because we both know a town spurge doesn't bother to read.

Unvote: prof

Rule #1 certainly is stupid due to the fact that one stupid townie can really bring the whole team down. That's no reason to test it though.

And what I meant by "my kind of Mafia" is the faster days, and no chance of a no lynch day one.(Though I think it has it's use in later days, but it's a trade off I can deal with)

Rules that can be exploited to break the game is not my kind of Mafia.

 

"well IF spurge is town, so what if everyone loses their powers night one"
But that's never what I meant. I never wrote that second part :D You just interpreted it that way because you were looking at the rule differently.

Haha, at second part. Yes, I know you were referring to the rules, not the penalties. Still, I don't think it's exploitative or gamebreaking, just that your interpretation makes it appear so. Your interpretation also assumes that Stefl would be unable to realize the unfairness of the penalty as soon as he takes action, or that he would be held captive to his own rules.



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Prof what you say does make sense, just be glad I wasn't the mod with these rule :)
However I am still mad that you took that risk.

As for you guys saying it's game breaking, I have to disagree, yes it could be used to confirm town but at the same time if no townies had power over night, the confirmed player could just be killed by mafia risk free since there would be no doc, nor anyone able to see who made the kill. Plus no cop investigation.



Linkzmax said:

 

Rule #1 certainly is stupid due to the fact that one stupid townie can really bring the whole team down. That's no reason to test it though.

 


One stupid townie can bring down the townie anygame yes more extreme with this rule than others since it punishes others but then town would get to know that the stupid townie is in fact a stupid townie, so there is that consolation prize :)



Wonktonodi said:
Prof what you say does make sense, just be glad I wasn't the mod with these rule :)
However I am still mad that you took that risk.

As for you guys saying it's game breaking, I have to disagree, yes it could be used to confirm town but at the same time if no townies had power over night, the confirmed player could just be killed by mafia risk free since there would be no doc, nor anyone able to see who made the kill. Plus no cop investigation.

Yeah except it would be a super powerful cop investigation.



theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:
Prof what you say does make sense, just be glad I wasn't the mod with these rule :)
However I am still mad that you took that risk.

As for you guys saying it's game breaking, I have to disagree, yes it could be used to confirm town but at the same time if no townies had power over night, the confirmed player could just be killed by mafia risk free since there would be no doc, nor anyone able to see who made the kill. Plus no cop investigation.

Yeah except it would be a super powerful cop investigation.

one confirmed townie at the cost of scum getting a risk free kill, possiby the confimed townie, if latter in the game possible someone more important. Not to mention only one player could use it a day, and if people really pushed stefl has other penaties he listed as well.



Wonk, why do you have in your mind that we would get the rolebreaker's role? Stefl can just as likely keep it secret if the town lost its night powers or not.

Anyways, so prof admits that it was a blunder, or at least, interpreting the rules differently. All right then. Erm, noted.

As to discussing suspects,

Notctis can't really bring himself down the list. His "I always act scummy, so it's cool" is such a bad excuse.

Spurge has taken an interesting leave since the discussion was moved away from him. He could be busy of course, but he was acting eager to resume scumhunting, which he hasn't.

Also, FoS Mario

For coming back after a long leave and only posting about himself. .
Quit only being interested in your own behind! It's not the best, anyways.



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