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Andrespetmonkey said:
OT: Personally, I just find Mario completely uninteresting, and I can't see why anyone over the age of 12 doesn't feel the same 

You can't say that and then have a pic of Little Big Planet in your sig or Domo in your avatar, it's completely contradictory.



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videogamesrule said:

@Bananaking21 you just wrote an entire paragraph about how mario games are terrible because they did not change story. You judge a mario game on story?STORY? You judge a game on gameplay but because of people like you who belive story is important video games to me are no longer fun. This is a video game not a t.v. show or movie.


yes. why cant mario have a great story? it has an amazing world already why not give it a great story? 



bananaking21 said:
videogamesrule said:

@Bananaking21 you just wrote an entire paragraph about how mario games are terrible because they did not change story. You judge a mario game on story?STORY? You judge a game on gameplay but because of people like you who belive story is important video games to me are no longer fun. This is a video game not a t.v. show or movie.


yes. why cant mario have a great story? it has an amazing world already why not give it a great story? 


Because a video game is not about story? You act like a story is important to video games I mean that's like saying story is important to porn because it's not. The gameplay is important which mario games have, artstyle which is diffrent each game(what mario games have you played to say it's the same?) and the music which all mario games have diffrent great soundtacks



Mario has one of the best OST of all time...does that count as art?



MDMAlliance said:
bananaking21 said:
Significant_leap said:
lol Mario generic?
Infamous, Protoype, GoW, Halo, Uncharted...those are generic,
Mario is the opposite of generic...


in terms of gameplay? no mario isnt generic. in terms of story, charecters, story telling, art style and music mario is the most generic game in the world, why? because the same thing has been used for the 30 years. honestly mario has the WORST story in video games now days. i feel sad for you if you think otherwise


WRONG!  Story maybe for some Mario games, as there really isn't a story in most of them, but art style has changed a LOT throughout its lifetime and rarely is same.  They reinvent the graphics style with almost every mario release, and the music may stay the same on many of them, but some of them introduce completely new music.  So I think you're biased against Mario in that you only listen to what you hear people saying about the game without looking it into yourself.  You cloud your own judgement in such ways.


why am i baised? why would i be baised against a game that literally was a huge part of my childhood? why would i be baised against a game i love? im not, but you just dont seem to understand my agruement, i wrote a hole post about how the franshise hasnt matured, but you havent replied to any of that, you just called me baised. and not having a story suddenly is a good thing? im not the one clouding my judgement, you are. just listen to my arguement then reply accoridng to it



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Significant_leap said:
Andrespetmonkey
lol, thats funny, cause i feel the same with all the magnificent new IPs Sony and Msoft brought this gen, not interesting at all, and generic to the limit, with characters full of cliches and bad design choices (Marcus, Master chief, Drake, all of them really boring and generic)
Mario its just an excuse to pull some amazingly well balanced gameplay...

I was speaking from my point of view, not for everyone else, you should probably do the same unless you want to look like an idiot. And I didn't call Mario generic.

Anyway, I'll respond to what you said...

So you mean those generic new IPs like LittleBigPlanet or Heavy Rain? 

I really don't see how God of War or Uncharted are generic franchises. I find it extremely odd that you'd call Nathan Drake a generic character, I mean how many wise-cracking treasure hunters are there in video games? He's the only one as far as I can tell. And how many ancient greek Gods are there in video games? What other games are like God of War? What cliches? Have you even played an Uncharted or GOW game? 

It's fine if you think the characters are boring, but there are millions that disagree with you so please don't state it as fact. Remember that's your opinion, like I did with Mario.



Oromashu said:
I think it's mostly because he appears on too many games, whereas other franchise characters only appear once every three years or something. Mario's versatility makes him able to appear in any genre he chooses. In my opinion, Nintendo just uses Mario as a recognizable face for whatever gameplay mechanics they want to explore in their games, since the story is rarely the reason we buy into Mario games.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the guys at Naughty Dog seriously hate Nintendo because how adamant they are about story in video games, yet Mario games counter that philosophy entirely. It was a good laugh.

Naw Gaming Journalist, Nintendo haters, MS and Sony fans are jealous because Mario counters all their beliefs of what a video game should be.

The fact that Mario is still the King of gaming and that more people around the world would rather play a 2D Mario game then Halo, Uncharted, Gears, GOW, etc pisses them off. So they attack Mario by saying he has to many games and is milked. Of course pretty much all of Mario's games are amazing and people love them.

To put it bluntly they hate the fact that Mario is unique and is so much more unique and interesitng then the generic characters like Nathan Drake, Master Chief, Kratos, Marcus fenix and the gears.

I mean Mario can fly, shoot fire balls out of his hands, rides on top of a dinosaur, is a professional kart racer, Dr., and olympic athlete, has traveled through space and time, Weapon of choice is his feet/hammer. Saved the galaxy...twice. Is acrobatic. the list goes and on.

Mario doesn't need guns/blood/and gratious violence to be interesting or cool. He does it by being unique and fun!

Because of this the haters despise him and are jealous.



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I love mario games and like to see how nintendo use him in different ways but I think they should give mario some vacation and give the spotlight to they other characters. Nintendo have many great franchises that can be used for every genres and yet all we see is mario, mario and mario all over. Thats why Im worry about future smash bros games, where the roster is fill with dead characters like ness.



Kyuubi Ricky SSJ2 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
OT: Personally, I just find Mario completely uninteresting, and I can't see why anyone over the age of 12 doesn't feel the same 

You can't say that and then have a pic of Little Big Planet in your sig or Domo in your avatar, it's completely contradictory.

Why? LBP appeals to mature gamers as much as children IMO, everyone is creative. And I don't find the sackboy character interesting, it's the game that I think is awesome. As for Domo... it's just something I liked when I was little, and someone got me the poster so... yeah, not much more explanation needed.



bananaking21 said:
MDMAlliance said:
bananaking21 said:
Significant_leap said:
lol Mario generic?
Infamous, Protoype, GoW, Halo, Uncharted...those are generic,
Mario is the opposite of generic...


in terms of gameplay? no mario isnt generic. in terms of story, charecters, story telling, art style and music mario is the most generic game in the world, why? because the same thing has been used for the 30 years. honestly mario has the WORST story in video games now days. i feel sad for you if you think otherwise


WRONG!  Story maybe for some Mario games, as there really isn't a story in most of them, but art style has changed a LOT throughout its lifetime and rarely is same.  They reinvent the graphics style with almost every mario release, and the music may stay the same on many of them, but some of them introduce completely new music.  So I think you're biased against Mario in that you only listen to what you hear people saying about the game without looking it into yourself.  You cloud your own judgement in such ways.


why am i baised? why would i be baised against a game that literally was a huge part of my childhood? why would i be baised against a game i love? im not, but you just dont seem to understand my agruement, i wrote a hole post about how the franshise hasnt matured, but you havent replied to any of that, you just called me baised. and not having a story suddenly is a good thing? im not the one clouding my judgement, you are. just listen to my arguement then reply accoridng to it

Listen I undertsand the siries has not matured I'm upset about this to but I still have fun and get enjoyment out of the game but you worded it to act like you hate it insulting art style, music, or story. The story is not important to a game this game sieries is one to pick up and play not one with a complex story.