lol really? You only played/seen in on consoles right?

Bad Company 2 on PC and BF3 on PS3 LOL

ah I see.

Actually EA has no rights to anything Crytek does. Crytek owns all of their property. So if Ea wanted to use CryEngine 3, they would have to pay for the leasing rights just like anyone else.

I agree with this

I know, Crytek are part of the EA partners program.

I meant to say 'Frostbite & EA' and 'Cryengine3 & Crytek' as seperate entities/companies.

well there's your problem lol

People who didn't play Battlefield 3 on PC maxed out on Ultra Settings shouldn't talk at all.
There is nothing in gaming at the moment that comes close to BF3 Ultra Settings with 64 Player Multiplayer Maps.

If there are really some people who didn't realize it > Battlefield 3 is one of the few games that are designed for PC and use the hardware that is available.
It isn't a cheap ass Console Port and neither was it developed at a PC and Console side by side thing at all.

IT IS A PC GAME
The Console Version is just there to make extra money.The console Version runs UNDER low PC Settings and has to relie on small maps,less players online and such stuff.
Kids need to realize not every Developer has to fear low sales on PC - DICE has the reputation and after years of Call of Duty with its Engine from 1999 people wanted something that looks awesome.They probably could have pushed even further so you could have only maxed it out with 680s(yes you would have to wait) cause the hardware market made billions of profit at the time BF3 got released.

You can say BF3 PC and Console are 2 different games of different years.
And people who don't see  how Frostbyte 2 or CryEngine 3 are already Next Gen Engines > Get a gaming PC and Max out the games.
You can even somehow say the Witcher 2 on PC Maxed out is Next Gen cause the 360 isn't even touching low Settings.

Im curious what we can expect from Next Gen Consoles.
If they don't manage BF3 Ultra Settings from the Start we have a problem.Cause PC Gaming is on a rise again and developers started to push for better graphics in the last few years again.The difference in power got insanely big.We came again much further since last year when Hardware was capable of running BF3 on Ultra Settings.

I am curious too. It worries me a lot that MS is targeting only 6x X360 according to that leaked internal document.
(in some places it was 8x X360 but media has quoted it as x6)

No. They said it is already as good as the Unreal engine 4