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hatmoza on 14 June 2012
Euphoria14 said:
crissindahouse said:
Euphoria14 said:
crissindahouse said:
Euphoria14 said:
D-Joe said:
Euphoria14 said:

Not sure about 2012, but in 2011 E3 has 46,800 attendees.

Gamescom 2011 had 275,000 attendees.

E3 not allow common people get in

Which is the all the more reason to be at Gamescom. Your consumer base are the ones who attend.

you really think it's so important to let consumers already owning consoles play a few demos? it's not like half of the people visiting the gamescom plan to buy a ps3 or 360. they already have them. it's maybe imprtant for sony to show vita to the public and it could be maybe good for nintendo because of the wii u but microsoft doesn't have to show some demos they can play later on live to people who won't buy a 360 anymore or already have a 360.

and new game announcements only shown on some screens, who needs that? we all have a laptop/tablet/desktop pc

only reason i see it important is because television will report about it (at least german television) if we see sony on tv but not nintendo and microsoft i think this will mean more tv time for sony which is good advertisement.

Yeah, why not? The customers play games they otherwise wouldn't be able to to and then get to spread information via word of mouth.

Pleasing your customer base is one of the best ways to keep them loyal.

why can't they otherwise? we get them as demos some weeks before release...why do i have to play forza if i can at home as demo? and like i said, people who don't own consoles don't go to the gamescom. not that late in this gen. sure with new consoles i think it's important, that's why i said sony should be there for vita and nintendo for wii u if they really think people will like it if the play demos. but i see not much microsoft could do there, even if they would have many more games. not for millions such a convention will cost a company. will they sell 2k 360s  to the 250k visitors and their friends after that? not very important.

€dit: ok you said please the customers i read over that. yeah ok this is maybe a point but not sure if really so important anymore.

It never becomes no longer important to please your customer base.

When you think it is no longer important is when someone else takes the opportunity to swoop in and grab all the attention, and when it comes to gaming, mindshare is very important.

 Yeah, they might not always have the newest and the latest and greatest to show, but at least it lets your fanbase know "Hey, we are still here guys and we still have things to share with you". I feel this is better than showing in Feb. at CES, June at E3 and then dissappearing.

Even so, let us see what they mean when they speak of local events and such, maybe Microsoft still have something planned between now and early 2013.


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D-Joe on 14 June 2012
Euphoria14 said:
crissindahouse said:
Euphoria14 said:
crissindahouse said:
Euphoria14 said:
D-Joe said:
Euphoria14 said:

Not sure about 2012, but in 2011 E3 has 46,800 attendees.

Gamescom 2011 had 275,000 attendees.

E3 not allow common people get in

Which is the all the more reason to be at Gamescom. Your consumer base are the ones who attend.

you really think it's so important to let consumers already owning consoles play a few demos? it's not like half of the people visiting the gamescom plan to buy a ps3 or 360. they already have them. it's maybe imprtant for sony to show vita to the public and it could be maybe good for nintendo because of the wii u but microsoft doesn't have to show some demos they can play later on live to people who won't buy a 360 anymore or already have a 360.

and new game announcements only shown on some screens, who needs that? we all have a laptop/tablet/desktop pc

only reason i see it important is because television will report about it (at least german television) if we see sony on tv but not nintendo and microsoft i think this will mean more tv time for sony which is good advertisement.

Yeah, why not? The customers play games they otherwise wouldn't be able to to and then get to spread information via word of mouth.

Pleasing your customer base is one of the best ways to keep them loyal.

why can't they otherwise? we get them as demos some weeks before release...why do i have to play forza if i can at home as demo? and like i said, people who don't own consoles don't go to the gamescom. not that late in this gen. sure with new consoles i think it's important, that's why i said sony should be there for vita and nintendo for wii u if they really think people will like it if the play demos. but i see not much microsoft could do there, even if they would have many more games. not for millions such a convention will cost a company. will they sell 2k 360s  to the 250k visitors and their friends after that? not very important.

€dit: ok you said please the customers i read over that. yeah ok this is maybe a point but not sure if really so important anymore.

It never becomes no longer important to please your customer base.

When you think it is no longer important is when someone else takes the opportunity to swoop in and grab all the attention, and when it comes to gaming, mindshare is very important.

 Yeah, they might not always have the newest and the latest and greatest to show, but at least it lets your fanbase know "Hey, we are still here guys and we still have things to share with you". I feel this is better than showing in Feb. at CES, June at E3 and then dissappearing.

Even so, let us see what they mean when they speak of local events and such, maybe Microsoft still have something planned between now and early 2013.

PAX then



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Euphoria14 on 14 June 2012
D-Joe said:
Euphoria14 said:

It never becomes no longer important to please your customer base.

When you think it is no longer important is when someone else takes the opportunity to swoop in and grab all the attention, and when it comes to gaming, mindshare is very important.

 Yeah, they might not always have the newest and the latest and greatest to show, but at least it lets your fanbase know "Hey, we are still here guys and we still have things to share with you". I feel this is better than showing in Feb. at CES, June at E3 and then dissappearing.

Even so, let us see what they mean when they speak of local events and such, maybe Microsoft still have something planned between now and early 2013.

PAX then

When is that?



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D-Joe on 14 June 2012
Euphoria14 said:
D-Joe said:
Euphoria14 said:

It never becomes no longer important to please your customer base.

When you think it is no longer important is when someone else takes the opportunity to swoop in and grab all the attention, and when it comes to gaming, mindshare is very important.

 Yeah, they might not always have the newest and the latest and greatest to show, but at least it lets your fanbase know "Hey, we are still here guys and we still have things to share with you". I feel this is better than showing in Feb. at CES, June at E3 and then dissappearing.

Even so, let us see what they mean when they speak of local events and such, maybe Microsoft still have something planned between now and early 2013.

PAX then

When is that?

http://prime.paxsite.com/ 



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Euphoria14 on 14 June 2012
D-Joe said:
Euphoria14 said:
D-Joe said:
Euphoria14 said:

It never becomes no longer important to please your customer base.

When you think it is no longer important is when someone else takes the opportunity to swoop in and grab all the attention, and when it comes to gaming, mindshare is very important.

 Yeah, they might not always have the newest and the latest and greatest to show, but at least it lets your fanbase know "Hey, we are still here guys and we still have things to share with you". I feel this is better than showing in Feb. at CES, June at E3 and then dissappearing.

Even so, let us see what they mean when they speak of local events and such, maybe Microsoft still have something planned between now and early 2013.

PAX then

When is that?

http://prime.paxsite.com/ 

Alright, so at least they won't have everything cramped into the 1st 6 months of the year.

Have they been confirmed for PAX yet?



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VGKing on 14 June 2012

America is all that matters for Microsoft. This has been obvious for years.



bad22 on 14 June 2012

xbox 360 have no games to show :P



D-Joe on 14 June 2012
Euphoria14 said:
D-Joe said:
Euphoria14 said:
D-Joe said:
Euphoria14 said:

It never becomes no longer important to please your customer base.

When you think it is no longer important is when someone else takes the opportunity to swoop in and grab all the attention, and when it comes to gaming, mindshare is very important.

 Yeah, they might not always have the newest and the latest and greatest to show, but at least it lets your fanbase know "Hey, we are still here guys and we still have things to share with you". I feel this is better than showing in Feb. at CES, June at E3 and then dissappearing.

Even so, let us see what they mean when they speak of local events and such, maybe Microsoft still have something planned between now and early 2013.

PAX then

When is that?

http://prime.paxsite.com/ 

Alright, so at least they won't have everything cramped into the 1st 6 months of the year.

Have they been confirmed for PAX yet?

no,but they always bring Halo to there and attened PAX EAST(April) 2012,so i don't think they will skip this year



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crissindahouse on 14 June 2012
Euphoria14 said:
 

It never becomes no longer important to please your customer base.

When you think it is no longer important is when someone else takes the opportunity to swoop in and grab all the attention, and when it comes to gaming, mindshare is very important.

 Yeah, they might not always have the newest and the latest and greatest to show, but at least it lets your fanbase know "Hey, we are still here guys and we still have things to share with you". I feel this is better than showing in Feb. at CES, June at E3 and then dissappearing.

Even so, let us see what they mean when they speak of local events and such, maybe Microsoft still have something planned between now and early 2013.

yeah sure but even with 250k visitors at gamescom or so which a part of them is the press and only maybe 50k are interested in the 360 or tgs with no clue how many visitors only a very small part of "fans" will be there. i mean, it's not like you in america (not sure where you are from) have something from the gamescom. everything you will see on the internet about it can be shown without gamescom as well to you. it isn't wrong to show "we are still there" on the gamescom, but if 1% of xbox customers/interests will get the opportunity to play a few games a little bit earlier on some conventions or not is really not important in my opinion. it's just too expensive just to reach some fans better than you can with the internet. i think we don't need any of these e3, gamescom and whatever. it's good because the press will report about those big events but i really don't care about it. sure i'm always excited about these events because they show new stuff then but only because they wait to show it there. if there wouldn't be a e3 or whatever i would see exactly the same just without e3 on ign, gameinformer and so on maybe even a month earlier.

about the bolded: yeah maybe their own "fair" like they had plenty of times in the past. forgot the name of it but they had it regularly until last year or so. and with locla events i can only speak about germany but they sometimes have events in munich as example in discoteques to show some stuff.



Millenium on 14 June 2012

Not too worried about it.